By Dr. Kwame Nantambu
October 09, 2011
In April 2006, the Church of England voted “to apologize to the descendants of victims of the slave trade” and in March 2007, considered paying reparations.
In late April 2006, Jamaica introduced a resolution in the United Nations General Assembly on behalf of the Caribbean and Afrika with co-sponsorship by most European nations “to acknowledge the legacy of slavery as being at the heart of situations of profound social and economic inequality, hatred, bigotry, racism and prejudice which continue to affect people of Afrikan descent today.”
On 25 March 2007, bicentenary of Abolition of Slave Trade, then Prime Minister of Britain Tony Blair publicly stated that slavery was “a crime against humanity” and offered “deep sorrow” for British involvement but no apology.
In May 2007, Pope Benedict XV1 condemned “the genocide of the Jews.”
In August 2007, the Mayor of London, Ken Livingstone, apologized for his city’s role in the trans-Atlantic slave trade. He stated that London was “tainted” by it.
On 29 July 2008, the United States House of Representatives issued “an unprecedented apology to Black Americans for the institution of slavery and the subsequent Jim Crow laws that for years discriminated against Blacks as second-class citizens in American society.”
On 18 June 2009, the United States Senate passed a resolution apologizing for “slavery and segregation of Afrikan-Americans”.
Reparations
“The 1825 ‘agreement’ that initially forced Haiti to pay France 150 million francs (US $21.7b) in exchange for liberty” was in fact, compensation/reparations “payable to mainly French planters who had lost their property in the revolution” of 1 January 1804.
On 7 January 1998, the Canadian government apologized to the country’s 725,000 “indigenous people”, namely, Indian communities and pledged $245m as reparations.
On 12 June 1998, then President Bill Clinton apologized to more than 2,200 people of Japanese ancestry who were forcibly taken from their homes in thirteen countries in Latin America during WW11 and were imprisoned in internment camps in Texas under the Civil Liberties Act of 1988. The U.S. government paid $5,000 in reparations to each of the internees.
In January 1999, 200 Americans who survived WW11 concentration camp atrocities received reparations from the German government.
In February 1999, the German government established a “compensation fund” totalling US $1.25b to compensate Jewish victims who suffered Nazi horrors.
On 31 March 1999, the United States government established a US$4m international relief fund to assist needy Jewish survivors of Nazi persecution.
In June 1999, Swiss banks established US $59m humanitarian fund for Jewish Holocaust victims.
In December 1999, the United States and German governments established a compensation fund of US $5.2b to surviving slave workers during the Nazi era.
In March 2000, the German government paid US $5b compensation to survivors of forced labourers in Hitler’s concentration camps.
In July 2006, one hundred and thirty survivors of the 1986 Suriname massacre received US $ 13,000 each in compensation.
In January 2007, the Canadian government paid US $8.9m to a Syrian-born Canadian citizen who was a victim of the U.S. “rendition program.”
In mid-April 2003, thousands of victims of Apartheid in South Africa who testified before the Truth and Reconciliation Commission received a “one-time reparation of about $4,000.”
Truth Be Told: The total amount of compensation/reparations, that is, unpaid wages, that are owed to Afrikans who worked on the European plantations for centuries have been estimated to be US $770 trillion plus interest.
Shem Hotep (“I go in peace”).
Dr. Kwame Nantambu is a part-time lecturer at Cipriani College of Labour and Co-operative Studies.
“Truth Be Told: The total amount of compensation/reparations, that is, unpaid wages, that are owed to Afrikans who worked on the European plantations for centuries have been estimated to be US $770 trillion plus interest.”
I join you in the cause Dr. Kwame to go to near bankrupt England and flaundering U.S. and demand such money. The American Economy is worth $14.7 Trillion, the British Economy is worth about 7 trillion pounds. By your estimate the work that black man did is worth 35 times the current British and American economies (lol).
Go for it bro, start protesting in Washington the President is a black man he will empty the treasury for you. Start protesting in London, Cameron will have no choice but to turn over all British monies to you and our African brothers and sisters.
Mamoo, I don’t know if you find this estimate to be humorous because of the amount or because of your lack of compassion. However, one thing is undisputable and that is that if it weren’t for the slavery of Africans in the western hemisphere far worse atrocoties may have been committed in Asia which was the original purpose of Spain sending Columbus on a route around the muslim controlled world to India which we all know didn’t work out that way.
I made that statement because of the state of Europe at that time. It was war torn and battered from the impact of the Crusades. Earlier in the year that Columbus set sail from Spain, King Ferdinand and Queen Isabella had cast out all Muslims and Jews who would not convert to Christianity. The punishment for staying was death.
The enslavement of Africans is what rebuilt Western Europe. France, Spain, Portugal, and of course England where no greater civilization than any other up to that point. As a matter of fact, ther were amongst the poorest.
It was only the establishment of colonies, slave labor, and the extraction of valuables from indidenous populations that made these nations superpowers of the colonial era.
The United States as an extension of England benefited the most.
The U.S. Constitution would have to be amended in order for there to be reparations for U.S. slavery. Jim Crow is something different.
The President doesn’t share a history of U.S. slavery unless it comes from his mothers side of the family as a possible plantation owner. Your Comparison was like stating that Ghandi, Bin Laden and Sadam all share the same world view because they are the same race or look to be on the outside.
Curtis, we must accept the fact that slavery damaged the black man psychological, emotionally, and financially. Having accepted that the point I am making is that it is time to move on. You cannot consistently hold on to the ravages of the past and expect to move forward. Britan and the US is decline, finacially noboby is able to compensate the black man. The welfare system in America, Britan and Trinidad is overloaded as is….
Mamoo, your point about moving on would be well taken if it was only up to the decendent of slavery to move on. You stated,”we must accept the fact that slavery damaged the black man psychological, emotionally, and financially”. However, did it ever occur to you that it (slavery) also had the equal effect on the civilizations that created this situation? Allow me to explain. The Colonial powers benefited from the unprovoked demise of others. If we must accept that fact, why can’t we accept that the Colonial powers unjustly benefitted psychologically, emotionally, and financially and that the only way to make any amends or sort of attempt at so would be through reparations and then ask everyone to move forward?
By the way, the welfare system has nothing to do with correcting the wrongs of the past. If you would like to dismantle the current Welfare system because you think that it pays homage to communities damaged by European wrongs, perhaps you too should be an advocate for reparations.
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A revealing look at what Europe and North America would be like; but for the enslavement of Africans and the pillaging of Africa.
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mamoo you are a sick hateful creature. I would never mock the 800milion Indians condemn to the caste system by Mahatma Ghandi. You would never understand pain loss and life. Weren’t for the cries of the African man, the whiteman would have no sense of his indifference toward humanity or any sense of justice from which all of humanity benefited. The Black man was the natural reflection in the mirror of Indentured labor, evolved into the trade Union and labor rights and Human Rights etc. Yes the how sadly skewed Islamic Western & Hindu civilization had mask humility and creation. processes even espoused through the Western & Arab world was as a direct result of the inhuman though ungovernable irrational racist systems that stem from the Slave trade i.e. Christianity Islam & Hinduism ascent to these class bigotry.
Life is a game of chess doc , and so I say, it’s time to put an organization together , and go after all the communities that benefited from savage European/ Arab orchestrated ,barbarian slavery, and eventually the respective governments of the day, would come around, to doing the correct thing- with a bit of nudging of course.
I am talking about the Jewish transport / Insurance , and banking business community, the entire pedophile laden, Catholic church,every Arab fiefdom on earth.
We know that characters such as mamboo thinks he is cute , with this stupid ignoramus response, but warn him as to who will get the last laugh, as economic justice will be served, be it South Africa, T&T, USA, Europe or any where else on earth,even if it’s 100 years from now , and irrespective of any paltry role of Obama , in addressing it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78w0ewF9QgI
By the way Doc , I once heard a stupid so call intellectual Afrikan America , state on a public platform , that he want a scale to decide the amount that should be given to present and future generations of Afrikan folks in his country, and that main yardstick would be to the degree that they lved in America, 1st generation , 2nd, 3,rd , 4th etc.
Now you see why immoral criminals such as mamoo , and his kind can become emboldened, yes?
Working on a book , entitled ‘How Europe conquered the world , enslaved millions of Afrikans, and still keep them in bondage.’Stay tuned.
AMEN!My sincere best wishes for the publication of your book.Please try,and include a chapter or part thereof on the current position of the European Union to abolish capital punishment in T&T.
We like living in this imaginery Utopian world of repatriation and justice.If every country or race look to redress the balance of history where will it take us.Slavery did not start in Africa nor did it end there.Genocide did not start with the halocaust nor did it end there.History will show that Man keep repeating his mistakes again and again.Our duty is to make sure we don’t repeat those mistakes.Why waste time on Quixotic battles…. hopeless and inane.The past is dead and the future is ours to conquer
In the year for peoples of African descent and the era of Raparations, Professor emeritus Bridget Brereton writes:
“In my last column I tried to compare slavery and indenture as systems of labour control.”
I have not read that column, but I have to say that BB cannot be that serious to compare slavery and indenture in any form what so ever, much less simply consider them as just systems of labour control. Already therefore from the outset Professor Brereton is on the level of revisionism.
“In this piece, and in the next articles, I’ll consider how Trinidad became a slave society, and whether it was essentially different from other Caribbean slave societies.”
So already in the first two introductory statements Pro. BB has made three fatal flaws on the Slavery and Slave Society, the early presence of Blacks in Trinidad and the description of Indentureship in equal labour terms as slavery.
The first rational explanation for this flaw, is that Pro BBs scope of expertise exists in the temporal realm of post-slavery to the early 1900s. This must be borne in mind more than just the fact that Bridget Brereton is an Expat, a white British woman living in Trinidad. To be borne in mind also is the fact that Pro BBs area of specialization is in the realm of feminism and gender history rather than Black History or the history of the people of Trinidad. One must have these ideological precepts clear in mind before one begins to engage BB and the historical flaws based on her racial and gender bias.
It must be pointed out here that for the sake of comprehension of history, Trinidad becoming a slave society is not the same as Trinidad having in its territory large numbers of Black slaves prior to becoming a slave society. And that this early pre-slavery presence in large numbers does not make Trinidad a slave society, even though this presence is recorded as early as the 1500s. Professor BB is very dishonest if she does not strictly state what is the definition of a slave society in the context of the Caribbean, Trinidad included. She must work with this definition if she is to make any comparative study between Trinidad and the other Caribbean “slave societies.”
Bridget writes that:
“Eric Williams entitled Chapter Four of his History of the People of Trinidad and Tobago “Africa to the Rescue”. He meant that, to quote his words, “Africa had been brought in by Spain into Trinidad as the solution of the labour problem.”
Professor Brereton is intellectually dishonest. After the passing of Eric Williams, a veritable industry of pure lies has been erected around his works. That Trinidad and Tobago specifically has not produced men and women of Afrikan heritage to discredit such fabrications is a serious indictment. It seems that other ethnic groups specialize in the writings and biography of Eric Williams with the intention of falsifying his achievements. These people just have a nasty habit. Eric Williams has never stated nor implied anything of the sort that Prof. BB is claiming. Bridget Brereton is referring to another book by another author. This is grounds enough to dismiss her complete column in its entirety. But because she holds the lofty post at UWI ( and as professor emeritus) she must be categorically exposed for being a brutal liar! Not just intellectually dishonest. Why would Prof BB say Chapter Four, when it was in Chapter FIVE that Eric Williams stated: “Africa had been brought in by Spain into Trinidad and the west indies as a solution of the labour problem.”
Anyone who knows standard FOUR history, will remember that there was a labour problem in the West Indies when the Spanish enslaved the indigenous population and ultimately wiped them out. And though Spain was not actively involved in the slave trade, it was Spain that held the ASIENTO which was the right they had to provide slaves to all of the Americas including the West Indies AND Trinidad. This is what Eric Williams is saying in Chapter FIVE and NOT Chapter FOUR as Pro BB is stating. This is what Eric Williams is writing about.
Bridget writes again:
“But the truth was that, before the 1780s, Trinidad really didn’t have a “labour problem” nor was there much demand for enslaved labourers.”
Brereton is committing history crime. In this same Chapter Five, Williams states that the labour problem in Trinidad was recognized by the Spanish in 1790, and not in the 1780s as Prof Brereton is deliberately falsifying. She not only falsifies chapter, but also dates. Two additional fatal flaws or outright lie.
Williams cites the Spanish Governor Chacon as stating that “The rapidity with which this colony has been peopled and extended is such that 4000-5000 Negroes are required each year and in two or three years many more will be required. The produce is abundant and of good quality.”
Williams went on to state that “ It was in these circumstances that the British captured Trinidad from the Spaniards in 1797 when Britain and Spain were at war.” Imagine that even a Spanish colonial governor is presenting much more truth than a UWI Professor, all in her rabid effort to discredit the Doc.
Bridget writes:
“We know exactly when the first Chinese immigrants arrived in 1806; and we know all about the first ship bringing the first indentured Indians in 1845. But we’ll probably never know when the first enslaved Africans came to Trinidad.”
Bridget knows and knows and then knows not. According to her only a few black man were down there not long before the Indians and Chinese. This is the devious history they are teaching black people in Trinidad that makes them relinquish their birth right. And all this is done by these negrophiles with the conscientious well planned attack on Eric Williams POSTHUMOUSLY! These people, in conjunction with Prof Bridget Brereton practice more necromancy than Negro history. The sad thing is that the Afrikan fall in their trap and do not themselves study the works of Eric Williams as the most devastating weaponry against the likes of the necromantic Prof. Brereton. That is the sad chapter.
“There were certainly a few present during the period of Spanish colonization up to the late 1770s, however.”
In truth and in fact we do know when the first Afrikans arrived in Trinidad. They came with the Spanish already in the 1500s. And just as the Spanish were supplying slaves to the rest of the Americas, so too they were introducing Africans into Trinidad from the earliest period of Spanish colonization. Brereton remembers to forget this chapter. The Spanish also had highly developed sugar plantations in Lavantille and all the other places where Black people populated Trinidad. What Brereton is trying to lie about is that there was not an established sugar industry in Trinidad based on Afrikan labour, and that Indentured labour in the sugar industry arrived at a time not long after the first Afrikans, so that by the time of the arrival of the Indians, the sugar industry would have basically not been in existence. In this she fails miserably. She fails miserably because even in Caroni it was Afrikan slaves who were the labourers on the many sugar estates that the *Indians* are claiming that they built up, when in truth and in fact, by the time they arrived in Caroni, the vast areas of forests had be cleared for the sugar industry that was already in existence when they arrived just the other day. That is why Brereton knows when they came to Trinidad just like she herself.
“Spain was not at this time directly involved in the transatlantic trade in enslaved Africans.”
Eric Williams in *Capitalism and Slavery* states in the first paragraph in the First Chapter entitled “The Origin of Negro Slavery” that it was the Pope who in 1455 and by the Treaty of Tordesillas that Spain and Portugal were granted authority to own Afrika and Amerika and to trade slaves between these two continents. No nation on earth was allowed to bring in a single black man into the *New World* without the Spanish authority. Spain sat on the golden throne of the slave trade authorized by the Pope by means of the ASIENTO! In 1455 the Pope in Rome was a Spaniard! Professor Brereton is a dam blasted liar just like Christopher Columbus to state that Spain was at this time not directly involved in the trans Atlantic slave trade. In the fifteenth centruy the first Black man was already in Trinidad! And what the hell was Spanish Governor Charcon talking about in 1796 requesting the introduction of more than 5000 thousand black man each year! Did Charcon say these slaves were to come from the British West Indies? Spain knew for centuries where its slaves came from and from whom. They were the administrators of the trade, though they did not carry them in Spanish ships. So what is the Pro talking about. When the slaves were imported from other islands, it must be remembered that at the time the slave trade had not yet ended and the British and French were still obtaining slaves directly from Afrika. Why would they otherwise supply the Spanish when they needed slaves themselves; IT WAS BECAUSE OF THE ONGOING ATLANTIC SLAVE TRADE which ended in 1807 for the British West Indies Pro Brereton! And this was how Spain did its slave recruitment for all the centuries. A study of West Indian history would indicate that the slave masters in the islands would prefer to keep their creolized slaves rather than the volatile newly arrived ones directly from Afrika. That is why in Trinidad there are more Afrikan traditions than in many of the other islands except for Jamaika. Would the creolized slaves from the British and French islands retain more Afrikan traditions than the ones newly arrived from Afrika? So indeed there were Afrikans in Trinidad from the early 1500s up until right now when Bridget had her story updated.
“ and since Trinidad had no flourishing plantations, mines or ranches, there was very little demand for them.”
Ah ha. Here she is caught red handed! That is what she wants to say. No flourishing plantations in Trinidad. She writes this at a time when the Kamla regime is setting up a Sugar History Museum in Caroni and they need a white UWI professor, just like the racist white Kanadian Commissioner of Police who refers to Blacks as animals as a justification to arrest them, just like they referred to Afrikans as animals as a justification to enslave them. So they get this white woman from UWI in St. Augustine in Trinidad to do their dirty mind work for them as if she is some Commissioner of History. None of these ideas floating around saw the light of day while the Eric Williams was around. And look at a professor referring to Afrikan slaves as “them.” William says that by the time Britain captured Trinidad from the Spanish, there were in Trinidad 159 sugar estates, 130 coffee estates, 60 cocoa estates and 103 cotton estates. In all four hundred and fifty two slave estates! Brereton calls the slaves a few of them and no flourishing plantations. This was what the British found in Trinidad. Williams provides the production figures and stated that more than half of the population were Afrikan slaves. Like Brereton was living in the eighteenth century and knew more than the Spanish Governor himself when he wrote to the King of Spain that:
“The rapidity with which this colony has been peopled and extended is such that 4000-5000 Negroes are required each year and in two or three years many more will be required. The produce is abundant and of good quality.”
So why was Charcon calling for thousands more slaves yearly and many more afterwards? Charcon answers the question to the King of Spain; it was simply because “the produce is abundant and of good quality.” Good quality sugar, good quality coffee, good quality cocoa, good quality cotton. Professor Brereton says that Trinidad had no flourishing plantations in spite of the official reports, just to discredit Doc Williams and in the process Black people, so as to appease her new *Indian* masters.
Eric Williams is a visionary and he had them cornered long before they even knew about the subject history.
Bridget again says:
“Very few of the impoverished Spanish settlers had the means to purchase them. But a few enslaved Africans, and a probably slightly larger group of free persons of African, African-Spanish, African-Amerindian or African-Spanish-Amerindian descent, formed part of the small population of Spanish Trinidad in the 17th and 18th centuries.”
Professor writing History just as if it is some kind of literature of fantasy with maybe this and probably that. Demographically she places the Africans in the “few” while she was able to identify a slightly “larger” group of all kinds of miscegenetic amalgamations that dissolves the Afrikaness of the Blacks, so that we have Afrikans mixed with all kinds of ethnicities.
This demographic calculus that Professor Bridget Brereton is employing, is the same method of population census that is being used in Trinidad today by non black social scientists in determining the composition of the population of Trinidad and Tobago to arrive at a figure which places the Afrikans in the minority. For these head counters, as soon as a black man or woman touches another race, a transition takes place overnight where he or she no longer belongs to the “few” Afrikans, but becomes a significant subset of a new ethnic entity of a Hyphenated Afrikan. This is how the present day census arrived at minority figure for the Black population of T&T. Professor Brereton is utilizing this same method to measure the Afrikan slave population in the history of Trinidad. By using this method, the figures show that the Afrikan population during the period concerned was much higher than what she quotes. That historical fact is also true today for the real numbers of Afrikans in Trinidad.
Bridget writes again:
“It was the arrival of French immigrants, lured to the island by generous offers of free land, tax concessions and other advantages, which transformed the island into a slave society. Starting in 1777, but accelerating in the 1780s and 1790s, hundreds of planters from the French Caribbean colonies, from Grenada (British since 1763 but with many French settlers) and from France, emigrated to Trinidad.”
This is to be interpreted in the context that the largest major influx of Blacks into Trinidad was from the other islands. But this was also at the height of the Slave Trade. The Spanish and British and French were moving slaves around as territories were exchanged and soils were exhausted. So that it was Barbados’ virgin lands, then Jamaika, then Cuba, then San Domingue (Haiti) that chronologically experience population explosions as new acquisitions were made. Trinidad was no exception to the rest of the Caribbean, and there is no way professor Bridget can come back in another column to lie to the general public that slavery in Trinidad was different in any way from the rest of the Caribbean to fulfill the assignment given to her by her Hindu and French Creole paymasters to wipe the Afrikan out of the history of Trinidad. It was exactly as Eric Williams says in Chapter FIVE:
“Africa had been brought in by Spain into Trinidad and the West Indies as a solution to the labour problem. France was now brought into Trinidad as the solution of the problem of white management”
Afrikans were brought into Trinidad as they were brought into the rest of the West Indies by Spain to solve the labour problem. Now notice how Professor quotes the wrong chapter and how she excises the West Indies from the quotation she says comes from Eric Williams’
Chapter Four:
“Eric Williams entitled Chapter Four of his History of the People of Trinidad and Tobago “Africa to the Rescue”. He meant that, to quote his words, “Africa had been brought in by Spain into Trinidad as the solution of the labour problem”.
I never knew in all my life that a Professor at UWI could LIE so! Eric WIlliams NEVER said in Chapter that “Africa had been brought in by Spain into Trinidad as the solution to the labour problem.”
It was in CHAPTER FIVE that Eric Williams wrote that “Africa had been brought in by Spain into Trinidad AND THE WEST INDIES as the solution to the labour problem.”
Chapter FOUR, “Africa to the Rescue” a totally different chapter at no pont discussed any labour problem what soever!!! Eric Williams dedicates this entire chapter to debunk the colonial justification for the enslavement of Afrikans as subhuman. Williams demonstrates how Afrika was a civilized continent before the arrival of the Europeans. The reasons for this was that the Spaniards dehumanized the Amerindians as a justification for their enslavement. Having basically exterminated the people whom WIlliams refers to as “our Amerindian ancestors,” the Europeans now employs the same reasons for the enslavement of blacks in the Caribbean. By showing that Afrika was not an uncivilized continent as the Europeans were claiming, Williams MEANT exactly as he said, that Afrika came to the rescue of enslaved Afrikans in the New World as evidence that they were not primitive subhumans. Williams meant that the Europeans had no justification what so ever for their case. Evidence of this was that many of those Afrikans were able to show cultural achievements even during slavery and were able to establish their own well organized communities as in Surinam. This is what Williams says and means in that chapter. He does not mean what Bridget says. Bridget takes a badly quoted sentence from one chapter and clandestinely smuggles it in another chapter which addresses a totally different matter. In the nervousness of her despicable forgery she fumbles and mixes up chapters and all.
Bridget is so convinced of her historical seduction that she intends to include the rest of the Caribbean in her next piece:
“ In my next piece I’ll consider how far slavery in Trinidad was different from the system in other Caribbean countries.”
Dr. Williams is the greatest visionary to come out of the English speaking Caribbean. You see because the old man before he went to his grave left a legacy for the people of the Caribbean while Brereton was a lilly white little kindergarten girl with ribbons in her ponytails. I must be a mad man to hold on to the historical frocktail of this freckled storyteller while I ignore the masterpiece of Eric Williams *From Columbus to Castro-The History of the Caribbean.* Poor little girl Bridget, she have to go and come in a column when Columbus done come ahready and Castro gone long! Professor Bridget is professor emeritus and she cyaan come yet. She retired and she still tired. Lord a column she can’t write. Eric Williams while still PM of T&T was still able to write the *History of the people of Trinidad and Tobago” containing almost 300 pages in ONE MONTH and he gave it to them on Independence Day of August 31th as a Manifesto. Kamla chooses this day, August 31th to lock down Afrikans in a state of Emergency and Curfew.
Eric Williams gave the people of Trinidad and Tobago their written history and he gave to the people of the Caribbean their history too. Who want to wait for their column from Bridget could stand in line to be baptized in the fountain of self hate. Marcus Garvey said that a people without the knowledge of its past is like a tree without roots.
I must be a tree without roots to be charmed by these two racist women. Bridget knows what Marcus meant. And she knows what a tree without roots means. The following is what she quotes from a Scottish woman in the West Indies. Brereton presents the writings of a Scottish woman, Janet Shaw, on the treatment of black slaves in St. Kitts in the 1770s. Brereton quotes Shaw that:
” when one comes to be better acquainted with the nature of the Negroes, the horror of the whip must wear off. It is the suffering of the human mind that constitutes the greatest misery of punishment, but with them it is merely corporeal. As to the brutes it inflicts no wounds on their mind, whose Natures seem made to bear it, and whose sufferings are not attended with shame or pain beyond the present moment.”
Note the date! Brereton is quoting the 1770s, the same period during which there was a veritable slave industry in Trinidad. This is the style of Bridget’s historical writing. Her column will use the same method to distinguish the difference between St.Kitts and Trinidad. This is what she promises in a series of articles to inflict on black brutes who have no mind to remember. But notice how she makes use of that quote, that Blacks have no memory of our past because we are brutes without a mind to remember the cruelties. As soon as the pain is gone we forget because our minds are unable to register the horror!
Even a German philosopher was able to appreciate the mind of the slave more than the British slavemaster and more than British Bridget. Hegel wrote:
“”through work and labour this consciousness of the bondsmen comes to itself…precisely in labour where there seemed to be merely some outsider’s mind and ideas involved, the bondsman becomes aware, through this rediscovery of himself by himself, of having a being and a mind of his own”
Here is this German philosopher stating that forced labour was enough for the bondsman to realize that he has a mind of his own. Through labour alone. But here is British Bridget Brereton claiming boldly that the British slavemaster holds the Afrikans in forced labour and on top of that whips him into submisssion, and is bold enough to claim that he still has no mind of his own!!! With all the whippings the slave still did not have a mind of his own. Bridget had nothing to say against the slavemaster, but intends further muddle our historical mental memory.
A professor and philosopher of greater magnitude and mental memory than Bridget Brereton and even Hegel is the great Natural Black Philosopher Robert Nesta Marley:
“I remember on a slave ship how they brutalize our very souls.”
A word to the wise is enough.Not only our minds, but also souls.
Bridget writes:
“Most were white, but a significant group were “free coloureds”, people of mixed African/European descent who were free and, in many cases, quite wealthy.”
Notice the language, most=whites; Significant=Mixed African/European.
Here she writes most and significant, but in the case of Blacks they are “few.” And as if the professor is lacking of basic analytical skill when she states that the affluence of those two castes was based on the number of cattle (Afrikan slaves) they owned. Since an increase in wealth was dependent on an increase in number of slaves, then obviously there must be a significant increase in slaves for these people to be quite healthy, wealthy and wicked. So “however many” slaves they would bring is the determinant factor of their ever increasing wealth in society.
Bridget writes:
“ Both groups brought with them their human “property”, their enslaved labourers… The more enslaved persons you brought in, the bigger your land grants (though free coloured immigrants got less than whites, however many slaves they might bring).”
To save her soul from torment and paint a bright picture of slavery, she ends with a long outlay of historical statistic and dates about how, when and why Trinidad became a plantation economy based the forced labour of Afrikan slaves:
“These immigrants…, with their enslaved labour, created flourishing cotton, sugar, coffee and cocoa plantations, and made Trinidad what it had never been: a plantation economy based on the coerced labour of enslaved Africans….” etc, etc….
What Professor Brereton writes here at the end of a story which she originally took form the Book of Pure and Applied Fantasy, which was itself copied from the original *The World According to Garp” is entirely correct.
But still the snake charming Professor only deceive a some elements with those elaborate facts. The simple reason is that the Professor departed from Pure and Applied Fantasy and plagiatically copied from Eric Williams historical Manifesto! This nazist piece of historical writing by the Professor, as if now assigned by the GOPIO agenda, does not elicit any admiration for dexterity; the truth must be mixed up and intertwined like a coiling snake with lies in order for the lie to be big, palpable, tangible, plausible and believable. That is the cunning ploy she employs by ending with Eric Williams’ own documents in order to deceive those without the memory of past snake bites, only to return with the anti-Eric Williams, anti-Black poisonous snake oil in her next column.
A simple analysis of Prof Brereton’s strategy would indicate exactly what she intends to do. She is arguing from the point of view that Trinidad was not a slave society based on the plantation system like the rest of the Caribbean islands. She used this to place the Afrikan in a diminutive role in Trinidad society and to underestimate his/her arrival and numbers. To do this she has to distort the writings of Eric Williams.
This she attempted to do in this column. But in this column, having written the Afrikan out of the true history of Trinidad, she is concerned with one main issue. After Eric Williams stated that the Afrikan was brought into Trinidad and the West Indies by Spain to solve the labour problem, Williams says in the next sentence that “France was now brought into Trinidad as the solution of the labour problem of white management.”
Notice how Eric Williams mentions the presence of Afrikans first, then that of the French after. The point being made earlier that Afrikans were present as early as the 1500s from the arrival of the Spaniards. But notice how Professor Brereton puts her case:
“It was the arrival of French immigrants, lured to the island by generous offers of free land, tax concessions and other advantages, which transformed the island into a slave society.”
What Brereton has done therefore is to directly re-order the chronology of Eric Williams’ documented evidence on the presence of the black man both in Trinidad and in the West Indies, whereby Pro Brereton puts the French man first and the Blackman after, unlike Williams who places the Blackman first and the Frenchman after. For Brereton, the Frenchman is the Pioneer. For Eric Williams, Afrika is the Rescuer of the Blackman in Trinidad and the Caribbean. This is the purpose and intention of professor Brereton, in trying to establish that Trinidad was not a plantation economy with a significant amount of a majority slave population before the Frenchman came in under British rule. This is the intention of this column, twisting and turning the Eric Williams evidence without being honest enough to state that this is the aim and purpose of her columns. Very dishonest.
Whereas Bridget Brereton in her second column had hoped to superimpose the French Creole upon the Afrikan, one would expect that in her first column she would propagated the Hindu agenda of attempting to superimpose the *East Indian* on the Afrikan in like manner by “comparing” Afrikan and Indian coerced labour.
It would be no surprise that in her third column therefore, the Bridget would seek to divide the Trinidad Blackman from the Black man in the rest of the Caribbean by superimposing the Trinidad Afrikan in a different category from the black men and women in the rest of the Caribbean. This white racist woman states it clearly:
“in the next articles, I’ll consider how Trinidad became a slave society, and whether it was essentially different from other Caribbean slave societies.”
She intends to do in articles what the Doc did in volumes. The Doc already told us how. The whole industry is to place the Afrikan at the bottom of society. To achieve this they have to make a concerted posthumous attack on Doctor Eric Williams. The Afrikan who is not knowledgeable of the writings of Eric Williams and accepts the garbage from the likes of Brereton, is setting him/herself up for slaughter and extinction and to survive only as the new Dalit of the Caribbean, if they should believe that they and their historical experiences are different from their brothers and sisters in the region. The predator, in its hunting tactics must separate is prey from the group before it devours it.
All these flaws and racist revision and lies of Bridget have now been exposed. For anyone with a reasonable mind, there is no way anyone would give any credit to the impending articles by Bridget Brereton using her lofty academic career to divide the Afrikans across the region, just like her slave owning foreparents did for four centuries throughout the region, and the Afrikan who accepts this and blames the PNM showing amply that he/she does not have a mind of his own…..
In this modern period of ideological and historical warfare and attack against the Afrikan, the words of Marcus Garvey reverberates
A People Without the Knowledge of their Past is like a Tree without Roots. The PNM led by Dr. Rowley is a now a Party without Roots as it has allowed this lajablesse to deliver the key note address on the Centenary of the Birth of Dr. Eric Eustace Williams. The Doc will never forgive you for this with all the history he has given you……
And I say to Briget:
We have a mind of our own, so go to hell if what you thinking is not right….
Number one sir, you are criticizing what we have not read ourselves.
And two Dr BB is an expat who was or is married to a local son of Sangre Grande and to suggest that she is racially driven is to suggest that she prejudiced against her husband children and in-laws.
So please criticize based on ones presented work and not on what you perceive a person’s motivation or personality to be.
NuffSaid
The question of reparations for the Afro-Creole slave descendants of the West has been succinctly but clearly addressed in the Book of Yahweh (aka the Holy Bible).
Many of us miss it completely because we dismiss the Bible out of hand as the white man’s book. It is not, it is the book handed to the children of Israel by Moses and the prophets who succeeded him. All of these prophets were Israelites of the blood, and all of them were black-skinned and woolly haired like the Afro-Creole slave descendants of the West who are their progeny.
That’s right. We the slave descendants are true Israelites of the blood. We know this because we, uniquely, fulfill all of the prophesied curses that would befall true Israel, prime among them precisely the curse of chattel slavery entered into via the ships of the trans-Atlantic slave trade (Deuteronomy 28:68).
Others miss it because, although Xtian and familiar with the Bible, they read it without understanding who, exactly, today, are the Israelites, the people of the Book and Covenant. They assume the Israelites are the Jews and Israelis, and moreover are a white-skinned people because that is what they learn in the Xtian churches, via the false images used to depict Christ, the prophets, and the saints. It is a lie reinforced by Hollywood, which would have us to believe that Moses looked like Charlton Heston.
We know that has to be a lie because Moses grew up in Pharaoh’s household as Pharaoh’s own grandson, the same Pharaoh that had issued a decree that all new-born Israelite males should be put to death (Exodus 1:16; 2:10). So we may reliably infer that Israelites looked like Egyptians, who at that time, ca. 1500 BCE, before Persian, Greek, Roman, Turkish etc. invasion were a pure black Hamitic people, not mixed as the Egyptians are today. (In the original Hebrew, Egypt is called Mizraim, and Mizraim was a son of Ham, along with Kush (Ethiopia), Canaan, and Phut. In the Zondervan Bible Dictionary, Ham is described as “the progenitor of the dark races; not the Negroes, but the Egyptians, Ethiopians, Libyans and Canaanites”.)
In any case, scripture puts us on guard that there would be people who “say they are Jews and are not” (Revelation 2:9, 3:9), and impostors who would “take up the vision but shall fall” (Daniel 11:14).
At the same time, scripture lets us know that the true Israelites would be scattered to the four corners of the earth, and there worship strange gods that our forefathers did not know, including wood and stone (Deuteronomy 28:36,64). Moreover, we were to be discontinued from our heritage (Jeremiah 17:4).
This precisely describes the Afro-Creole slave descendants of the West, who, unique among all peoples of the world, have lost the knowledge of who we are as a people, having lost our names, our heritage, our language, our history, and our culture. To all other people, even to ourselves, we are an “astonishment, a proverb, and a byword” (Deuteronomy 28:37), and called disrespectfully by all manner of ethnic designation — negro, nigger, coloured, darkie, sambo, etc. — purporting to be descriptors of identity. Nowadays the terms are more respectful — African, Afrikan, even my favored Afro-Creole — but none recognize the crucial biblical truth that we are Israelites of the Book.
The paradox is therefore that we know our history better than any other people on the planet, because the history of our people is recorded for all to read, precisely in the Holy Bible. It is a history that takes us back to Jacob aka Israel, Isaac, and Abraham, with further precise genealogies go back to Noah, and indeed all the way back to Adam.
All of that is prologue to what I want now to say about reparations.
The first biblical fact concerning reparations is that those who are guilty will not want to pay:
Isaiah 42:22. But this is a people robbed and spoiled; they are all of them snared in holes, and they are hid in prison houses: they are for a prey, and none delivereth; for a spoil, and none saith, Restore.
The reason is obvious. The bill is so great that reparations would be considered and paid for every other group, but would be carefully avoided for the Israelite slave descendants. Indeed we as a people are a living reproach to Babylon system and all its works, so they seek to hide us away in prison houses and in other ways. We are “for a prey, and none delivereth”. There is no redeemer. There is no ideology that would redeem us as a people. Political, religious, or otherwise. None except Yahweh, the Most High God, to whom we need to return. In Yahweh’s reckoning, the reparations bill will not be paid in mere money — that will be the easy part — but also in kind: “He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword” (Revelation 13:10).
He promises to redeem us, to abundantly pardon us for our sins, to gather us out of the lands to which he has scattered us, and return us to the Promised Land. In the process, reparations will be abundantly paid:
Genesis 15:13-14. And he said unto Abram, Know of a surety that thy seed shall be a stranger in a land that is not theirs, and shall serve them; and they shall afflict them four hundred years; And also that nation, whom they shall serve, will I judge: and afterward shall they come out with great substance.
So after our 400 years of captivity, we are to “come out”, moreover with “great substance”. Our enslavers will be judged.
This is emphasized later in scripture:
Deuteronomy 30:1-7. And it shall come to pass, when all these things are come upon thee, the blessing and the curse, which I have set before thee, and thou shalt call them to mind among all the nations, whither Yahweh thy God hath driven thee, And shalt return unto Yahweh thy God, and shalt obey his voice according to all that I command thee this day, thou and thy children, with all thine heart, and with all thy soul; That then Yahweh thy God will turn thy captivity, and have compassion upon thee, and will return and gather thee from all the nations, whither Yahweh thy God hath scattered thee. If any of thine be driven out unto the outmost parts of heaven, from thence will Yahweh thy God gather thee, and from thence will he fetch thee: And Yahweh thy God will bring thee into the land which thy fathers possessed, and thou shalt possess it; and he will do thee good, and multiply thee above thy fathers. And Yahweh thy God will circumcise thine heart, and the heart of thy seed, to love Yahweh thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, that thou mayest live. And Yahweh thy God will put all these curses upon thine enemies, and on them that hate thee, which persecuted thee.
And also:
Isaiah 66:20. And they shall bring all your brethren for an offering unto Yahweh out of all nations upon horses, and in chariots, and in litters, and upon mules, and upon swift beasts, to my holy mountain Jerusalem, saith Yahweh, as the children of Israel bring an offering in a clean vessel into the house of Yahweh.
The reparations will be complete and the submission of the enemy will be abject:
Isaiah 49:23. And kings shall be thy nursing fathers, and their queens thy nursing mothers: they shall bow down to thee with their face toward the earth, and lick up the dust of thy feet; and thou shalt know that I am Yahweh: for they shall not be ashamed that wait for me.
Yahweh loves justice and righteousness. He chastised us, his chosen people, as a father chastises his own son. He also promises to spare us, as a man spares his own son (Malachi 3:17). But to those who have made of us a spoil, i.e. the partakers of Babylon system, retribution is certain: “Woe to him that increaseth that which is not his!” (Habakkuk 2:6). This in a nutshell is the entire enterprise of capitalism, slavery, and colonialism; it is a program to “increase that which is not his” — it is a program to steal the land and labor of others. Babylon system.
Babylon system will have a sure and certain comeuppance, and reparations will be paid! That is more than a promise; that is prophecy.
Shalom.
“We the slave descendants are true Israelites of the blood. We know this because we, uniquely, fulfill all of the prophesied curses that would befall true Israel, prime among them precisely the curse of chattel slavery entered into via the ships of the trans-Atlantic slave trade (Deuteronomy 28:68).”
The curse of chattel slavery was also visited upon the Slavonic peoples by your Ishmaelites; or as actual history remembers them the Karaites. (Before they were Jews and Muslims) Would it also be true then to say that they; from which the term Slave was derived, are also Yahweh’s chosen?
Consider also that they are as scattered as those who trace their ancestry to the continent of Africa; their Semitic progeny litters Africa’s North Coast and most of the Mediterranean nations, they worship any number of Gods, as they are as much Muslim, as they are Christian, Jew etc.; and their young women continue to be victims of a thriving European sex trade; so how does one account for them?
Ancient Egypt; Light of the World, G.H. Massey
http://www.masseiana.org/aebk10.htm#687
THE SEED OF YSIRAAL
“Only one mention of the people of Israel occurs by name on all the monuments of Egypt. This was discovered a few years since by Professor Petrie on a stele erected by the King Merenptah II[270]. Not that there is any possibility of identifying these with the Israelites of the biblical exodus. The ‘people of Ysiraal’ on the monument belong to those who were amongst the confederated Nine Bows, the marauders, North Africans, the Kheta, the Canaanites, the Northern Syrians, and others with whom they are classed. ‘Every one that was a marauder hath been subdued by the King Merenptah, who gives life like the sun-god every clay.’ This inscription gives an account of the Libyan campaign, and concludes with the following description of the triumph of King Merenptah: ‘Chiefs bend down, [p.688] saying, Peace to thee; not one of the Nine Bows raises his head. Vanquished are the Tahennu (North Africans); the Khita (Hittites) are quieted; ravaged is Pa-kanana (Kanun) with all violence; taken is Askadni (Askelon?); seized is Kazmel; Yenu (Yanoh) of the Syrians is made as though it had not existed; the people of Ysiraal is spoiled—it hath no seed (left); Syria has become as widows of Egypt; all lands together are in peace.'[271] The people of Ysiraal (Israel) are here included, together with the Syrians, and amongst the confederated ‘Nine Bows’ who made continual incursions into Egypt as invaders and marauders, and who are spoken of as having been exterminated. Hence it is said, ‘The people of Ysiraal is spoiled; it hath no seed.’ But there is nothing whatever in the inscription of King Merenptah corresponding to or corroborative of the biblical story of the Israelites in the land of Egypt or their exodus into the land of Canaan.”
Isn’t it interesting that the very people we rely on for validation of ALL ANCIENT HISTORY, barely mention a nation (tribe) of Israel/Israelites.
But they do get a mention, don’t they?
The characterization of it as “only one” merely reveals the tendentiousness of the writer.
Be that as it may, while the Book of Yahweh is deprecated as a book of history by the Science-ists of the day, what my reading suggests is that biblical prophecy is spot-on reliable. For example, the prophecies of Daniel regarding the toppling of Babylon by Medo-Persia, then the emergence of Greece, then the emergence of a fourth kingdom of which Rome was one of 14 horns to emerge within the 4th kingdom, is accurate. And Moses’ prophecy of our enslavement is also spot-on. Therefore, I ascribe more reliability to the testimony of Yahweh than to the speculations of Science-ists. Often tendentious, as we see here.
Oh and by the way, the fate of the Egyptians was sealed a long time ago, and prophesied in the Book of Yahweh:
Ezekiel 29:14
And I will bring again the captivity of Egypt, and will cause them to return into the land of Pathros (inner “Africa”), into the land of their habitation; and they shall be there a base kingdom.
That is why the so-called Arab Republic of Egypt today is hardly even peopled by the original Egyptians, who have been scattered all over Africa, and reduced to a base status. That is what the lament of Chancellor Williams (The destruction of black civilization) was all about. Ultimately he merely succeeded in proving the prophecy.
I do not seek to take away the glory of Egypt, understand. It is what it is, and I quite agree that the ancient papyri are often good sources of information.
In that context, take a look at the Ipuwer papyrus, for a story that corroborates (I do not say validate) the biblical story of the Exodus, and the 10 plagues associated therewith.
Papyri and stelae are fine as source documents left to be assessed and interpreted.
But the Bible is a book of knowledge, repeat konwledge. All the rest is vain babbling and speculation of one sort or another. I exaggerate only a little, for scripture prophesies: “…the Gentiles shall come unto thee from the ends of the earth, and shall say, Surely our fathers have inherited lies, vanity, and things wherein there is no profit” (Jeremiah 16:19). That is another sure prophecy I expect to be fulfilled before too much longer.
Shalom.
Long before there was a Book of Israelite or Hebrew “history” there was the Divine Pymander:
http://www.masseiana.org/divine_pymander.htm#1
If they fulfill prophecy then they are Israelite.
Understand, I am not saying that they do, nor am I saying that they don’t, fulfill prophecy. I haven’t studied the matter, nor have I been given any spiritual guidance on it.
But certainly it’s possible that the Slavic people are Israelite. That they are white-skinned is no bar. I believe I have cited scripture which shows how white skin came about and became a heritable trait. See the curse on Gehazi (2 Kings 5:27).
And Yahweh said he would scatter his children “from one end of the earth unto the other”(Deuteronomy 28:64). So I do not claim that *only* the descendants of the victims of the trans-Atlantic slave trade are true Israelites.
What I do claim and insist is that we, the Afro-Creole slave descendants of the West, uniquely, fulfill *all* the curses. Hence our claim is undisputable.
There are other peoples who fulfill only some of the curses. However, I do not insist that to be reckoned as Israelite a people must, like us, necessarily fulfill *all* the curses. Otherwise, where are the slave ships for the Israelites scattered to the East?
In any case, there have been tribal re-formations taking place. That is why there are partially Israelite tribes, like the Yoruba and the Zulu. In the same way, I expect that the “European” peoples who claim Israelite descent are partially Israelite only, meaning other non-Israelite paternal strains are present.
Moreover, even where Israelite paternal seedline goes all the way back to Jacob, if there has been significant outmixing on the maternal line, one may have been sufficiently bleached out as for it not to matter.
Good question, btw.
Shalom.
In 2007, when 200 British citizens chained themselves together and marched 200 miles to commemorate the horrors of slavery, I was quite touched. They seemed a caring lot, but it did not catch on. British youth of African ancestry continue to be at the bottom of the labour pool, most likely to be arrested on “sus” and most likely to be picked up at random to be made to participate in an ID parade. So, the marchers, led by the Bishop of York, who is from Uganda, did a touching thing that did not touch the main thing. Its just like the situstion of the Black young men in TnTpicked up by the SOE, while the BIG Fish continue bunkering illegally.
My take on reparations is different from Dr. Nntambu’s. How does one compensate a continent for the denuding of its population for one hundred miles from the coast inland, over a 2000 mile coastline? There is not enough money in the world to compensate for that.
What I would like to see, is an upgrading of the schools in areas where the poor decendants of the slaves still go to school. Eric Williams was quite a revolutionary in that regard. He could have kept his elitist QRC education, and did good things for the country, without ever touching education of the masses. He did not. He built and equipped schools. He evolutionized the Common Entrance Exam system, to benefit all the children. I was a student teacher at Tranquility Boys in 1962, when an inspector of schools cme to visit. Before he left, teachers began re-aranging the desks. They were creating whole new sets of standard five classes, because it was now the law that EVERY child of the right age should take the exam. I did not realize what an historic thing I was witnessing. Some were moved from second and third standard, but they could no longer be kept back based on economics or skin colour, as was previously the case in many schools.
In Britain and the UNited States, schools are funded from local taxes, with some aid from state and federal governments. What this means is that wealthy families living in the far suburbs can put more into their schools, because they have more. While industrial plants are often located in poor areas, their tax bases are so low, that they hardly put anything into the school system. Thus the two tiered system of education continues, and the poor get the less well trained teachers, some of whom do nothing at all for thier paychecks, just like in Trinidad and Tobago.Poor children’s schools are often not air conditioned. Just recently i Texas, there ws an issue of children with brathing difficulties, travelling on busses with no AC when the temperature was 105F.
Reparations for slavery should take the form of compensatory education in every country that benefitted from the free labour of Africans, and African countries should be helped also, to compensate for the manpower shortages, and four hundred yers as colonies of exploitation.
All the colleges I have had contach with in the US, when asked how to prepare a student to succeed at college, speak of the student being widely read.How does a child become widely read when there are no books at home, and the trip to the library is fraught with gang warfare, accidental shootings, rape possibilities, and all the other evils that can befall a city kid on the way from school to home?Wealthy suburbn children have school buses picking them up at dedicated stops. Poor city children take the subway or the Metro bus, being exposed in the process to all kinds of evil. If compensatory education programs put more money into the schools, provided children with stacks of supplementary readers, and in this age a computer, and give their teachers in poor schools more pay as motivtion for excellence, the children will have a better start in life.If a child goes to scholl with a music programme, he /she can larn the violin, the piano at school as part of music education. They can go to field trips that not only include the zoo, but museums and classical concerts.There are informal education areas that children in poor schools are deprived of, because the teachers and parents were themselves deprived. An absence of opportunity feeds on an absence of opportunity.Few inner city schools have adequate sports facilities or a swimming pool.
School feeding programmes in US schools now offer brealkfast to everyone, so at least the children are getting something to eat during the week. Lunch can also be free, but some of these poor children go home to houses where there is not much food all weekend. The former slave owning countries sould fund a study on the effects of fifteen generations of poverty and deprivation, and their effects on motivation, health, hope and crime.
I once woke up a student during a test, who had fallen asleep wihin the first hour of a day -long testing programme. We had stressed getting a good nght’s sleeop the night before. In a quiet conference outside the testing room, he confessed to having worked at the neighborhood grocery chain until midnight, and then restocked shelves for opening the next day. He had had about three hours sleep. I called his mother and asked her permission to give him some coffee.(You cannot do that in an American school. When she said yes, I handed the phone to the AP who was also proctoring he exam, for confirmtion.) We not only fed hom coffee. but fruit from the teachers’lounge. he stayed awake and passed the test. I wonder in how many other poor schools he would have been left to sleep, and so not complete the test?
This is the reality of some children whose ancestors built America on their free labour.
Onthe King Ranch in south Texas, the annual per pupil allocation ten years ago was $1.5 million per pupil. The allocation in CITY schools that ear was $4000 per pupil. Inequality born into and bred by the system. There were only four children, all in one family, living on the King Ranch.
These are the inequities that could be corrected by reparations. Apologies are words of regret, like contrition, they should be followed by action, but every time I see a picture of a Haitian child, I think of the enormous sum the Haitians, freed from slavery, had to pay to ompensate France for its losses of the planttion., and how the other two big democracies, ngland and the US, cheered France on. The planters in Trinidad were compensated too, at emancipation. The freed slaves got nothing. When one of them petitioned the Queen of England for compensation, since he and his peole had already purchased their freedon, there was no response.
The world is still suffeing from the effects of slavery. It determines who marries, and whom they marry. It determines who gets to start a business with a favourable loan rate and who never gets a loan.
How does one ever ocmpensate for that? How does one ever compensate for the fact that as an educated person, you are daily judged by ignoramuses who do not know half of what you know, but who make a decision based on the colour of your skin? The case of Prof. Louis Gates of Harvard, returning to his home, and the cops responding to a burglary call, when he had lived there in CAmbridge MAss. for years, is a case in point. Will reparations change that? He is already an accomplished historian, professor, author and wealthy, yet he was treated as a black man breaking into a house!
Mr.Obama invited he and the resonding cop to have a beer at the White House, until it happens again.
Cousin Linda, Allow me to call you that, as my Merikin ancestors likely trace back to the same boat ca. 1815 as yours. And as European royals do, we all called each other cousin, lol.
I want to take issue with you on the quote above. If you have been reading any of my posts, you will see where I assert that we the Afro-Creole slave descendants of the trans-Atlantic slave trade are in fact Israelites by blood. We came from Africa, but we also were scattered into Africa, like the Lemba (see http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYrQvm_llBY particularly @ 0:56-1:25) and Igbo and Yoruba (partially) and others who are still there.
So I do not assert my Israelite identity to deny an African connection. I freely acknowledge and accept it. I’ve been blessed to travel to Ghana, Nigeria, Egypt, and Ethiopia, and I’ve had African friends from all over: Morocco, Mali, Nigeria, Ghana, Lesotho, South Africa, Zimbabwe, Zanzibar, Tanzania, Uganda, Kenya, Sudan, Ethiopia, Eritrea, and Egypt. In a long life I’ve gotten around quite a bit. I used to be a Garveyite volunteer working in a tutoring program, and I still subscribe to the slogan “Africa for the Africans”.
However, I learnt a long time ago from a chemistry teacher always to sit humbly before Fact and Truth. I have since learnt the same from Scripture: “my people are destroyed for a lack of knowledge; because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children” (Hosea 4:6). Notice the emphasis on knowledge, as opposed to belief or ideology, or mere sentiment. Moreover: “And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free” (John 8:32). Obviously mere half-truth cannot serve the purpose.
And the Fact and Truth are that *certain* black African tribes were complicit in the slave trade. They have as much to atone for as the white Jews like Aaron Lopez who for the most part controlled the trans-Atlantic slave trade, and the white Gentile Xtians who participated and profited from it. And they know it.
The Ashanti have formally apologized for their role in the slave trade, and indeed have offered reparations. See Godfrey Mwakikagile (2007). Relations between Africans and African Americans: misconceptions, myths and realities. New Africa Press. At p. 164: “Six years ago, a delegation of Ghanaian Chiefs led by Nana Oduro Numamapau, the Paramount Chiefs of Asumenya in the Asante Region did in fact travel to the USA to deliver an apology to an African-American group for Ghanaian chiefs’ role in the slave trade.”
The apology should have come from the Asantehene himself, in my opinion. But be that as it may, if you know your Bible and genealogies, you would know that the Akan (Genesis 36:27; 1 Chronicles 1:42) are a black Edomite people, just as we are a black Israelite people. They are of Hebrew origins, as are we (see Joseph Williams, 1930, Hebrewisms of West Africa). But they were involved in selling us into slavery (consistent with Psalms 83:4-6). So also were the black Hebrew Ishmaelites of Sudan and Zanzibar, and elsewhere.
Scripture says very clearly that he who leadeth into captivity shall be led into captivity (Revelation 13:10). Therefore the black tribes of Africa that were complicit in the slave trade have a date with judgment. But God says also he will abundantly pardon those who repent of their sin: “If that nation, against whom I have pronounced, turn from their evil, I will repent of the evil that I thought to do unto them” (Jeremiah 18:8).
Such pardon is Yahweh’s to give, not ours, and we do our African brothers no good by casting them uncritically into the role of victim alongside ourselves, unless and until there is repentance as demonstrated by the Ashanti, and perhaps the Ishmaelite Sudanese who let the South go. Bitter truth is better medicine than sweet lies, however well meaning.
So yes, “Africa” suffered from slavery. But equally, not all black Africans are victims; some were culprits. It is wrong because untrue to suggest otherwise. If there is to be repentance and pardon, there must be acknowledgment of sin.
As we saw with Truth and Reconciliation in South Africa, and in Rwanda, Africans certainly know better than most how to repent and seek forgiveness, and we should not deny them that, whether through ignorance or racial ideology. Truth has to be the foundation of all right thought and right action.
The same penetrating and unflinching gaze must be cast upon Africa as upon the more usual suspects. We need to be more discerning.
Shalom.
We, Trinis, reserve the rght to select from various cultures the following:
A calendar- the Gregorian, taken from the Catholic Church more than a thousand years ago.
Our Laws: British, the westminister system of government holds.
Our electoral system of simple majorities also was taken from them.
Our currency system- once tied to the pound its now tied to the US Dollar.
Our weights and measures: We still fighting the kilos vs pounds war, also in linear measure.
For Jewelry and precious metals- we stick with the Krat
But when it come s to those same civilied countries, having seen the light of the barbarity of the death penalty, well, that is when we dicover that we are Chinese, Indian and African. We are not only Christian, but Muslim, Jew and Hindu and we dearly love an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth.
This vengeful, often small-minded collection of people live in what could be a paradise, but they are confused. They have not accepted Christianity. They forget that the most famous political murder in the history of the wold, was done on a hill called CAlvary, buy the Romans, in their declared state of emergency.
And the MAn cal Christ, was take down off the cross and two days later, was seen by the three MAry’s walking in the garden.
Swordfish, this is for your edification.
Religion is constructed to control the masses.I have since acquired the wisdom to identify religiosity is not access to (GOD) the Divine Principle.Instead,spirituality is the mainstay of mortal existence.When asked why he did not convert to Christianity..Mahatma Gandhi replied “there is one word which prevents my decision….CHRISTIANS”
Unfortunately no society can advance to the next level that chooses to have a callous attitude to it’s history , and more so, the disgusting treatment of any group within it’s borders.
Our world ,would remain fractured , economically , and politically,until Afrika is fully compensated for the savage kidnapping ,and abuses of it’s people , and also rape and plunder of it’s natural resources.Sadly enough, 98 % of the continent’s leaders today , have inculcated the demonic behavior left by imperial one time masters.
For the record, places, such as Trinidad and Tobago, USA, Latin America, and anywhere today ,where dispersed Afrikan folks ,are still ignored , and treated as second class folks , or the wrongs of history -as articulated so wonderfully by Dr. Nntambu-are not fully address, will remain in a state of tenuous progress, faulty development,and socially sick ambiance , always ready to burst at the seams, at the drop of an ignited match- once said people developed consciousness, behind a vibrant , pragmatic intelligentsia. Not one sole prepared to flaunt empty credentials , empty rewards, and accolades of a distant era.
Nuff said on that subject.
Having said that, let me add that the demands for reparation ,will never go away, no matter how some self serving creatures wish it would. How it is tackled , will be challenging , and calls for novel thinking by advocates on all sides of the issue. Madame L’s suggestions,are quite practical , and doable ,I believe- if the will exist.
As for my own country – the only place on earth,where my voice truly matters ? Maybe someone in the ‘me, me , gime , gime, dog with a bone, recent neo triumphalist,yet , we are victims too crowd,’ might see some merit in addressing this economic injustice , as opposed to simply laying the ground work for building prisons,suppressing hope, while continually eroding tenets of our democracy, hmmmm? Now that too is the easy part, as even the most strident power mongrel , can be encouraged to see where there real interest lies.
Now if only , one can find a way to do the difficult task, as we organize , and bring the voices that pretend to care , so that they can force changes, hemm?
Our educated youths -who stands to benefit from these gestures- some think , are more concerned with fun,party games, and foreign adventures, and have no interest in their own future, while many of the old schoolers , especially on ‘dis here information highway,’are so busy attempting to reincarnate Dr Eric Williams , and similar dead heroes , that the world might end before … well , fill in the blanks.
Ahhhhhh T&T, ‘where every creed and race find an equal place,’ huh? There is work to be done.
Yoruba Israelite, I salute you. Now. hear my words. There is no conflict between what you know and what I know.The coasts of West Africa were denuded, because of slave raiders. In the novel Arrow of God,(Chinua Achebe) the young maiden who is to be married, undergoes a cleansing ceremony at the crossroads near her village, and is warned by the Eze(Chief priest) that she must not cross that spot, for twenty four hours, even if the raiders of Abom were coming, and she had to run for her life. This story is set in the modern state of Enugu in Nigeria, whch is Igboland. Enugu is more than a hundred miles from the coast.In the memory of my father’s people, handed down through the oral tradition, there was a march through the forests for three months to reach the coast. Those who were freed directly from captured slave ships remembered, and passed on the knowledge, so we will know. In Malawi, last summer,
I stayed with some people whose last name ends in Chi, which is the individual guardian spirit of the Igbo people. I asked about that ending to their name, but they are not as deep into searching their historical origins, as we the wanderers, the force marched, are. Nonetheless, their name affirms that they belong in that land. I wondered then why the need for a strong affirmation that “My spirit belongs in this land”. The man of the household looked exactly like my father. Sturdy of build, rounded head, larger than most and a wide face, on skin that was not very dark but the colour of tea, made with rainwater. I called him brother, and his wife is my sister. I am agogo(grandmother) to their grandchildren, but it is more than that. At a wedding in one of the villages, I met many people who were transplants of my father’s people from Wiliamsville.There herbal medicines include sorrel, chndelay, and thee bush that produces masses of blue flowers that we use to wash eyes with. They lso believe that “any three will heal”meaning any three bushes, from three different plants, would heal. Try it, ven for mosquito stings. Now, this is knowledge I had obtained from my father’s people.
My white American travelling companion was amazed at their acceptance of me. They knew a daughter of their people had come home.
Africa, at the time of the slave trade was not divided into countries like today, and people could have fled anywhere, moved because the weather was too harsh, or because of internal wars. It is an historical fact that someone noticed in the nineteenth century that no Africans iived within one hundred miles of the Atlantic, but I cannot put my hand on the book now, to give you chater,and verse. Go well.
I’m sure not. Sometimes each can round out the other.
I wasn’t addressing so much the denuding question. That may well be true, I don’t know. But my understanding of the matter, supported by Scripture, is that Israelites were *selectively* targeted by non-Israelite African tribes for kidnapping and enslavement, and Yahweh let it happen because of the curses he put on us. People think that we of the Middle Passage were just a random mix of various African tribes. Wrong. Yahweh assures us otherwise:
Amos 9:9. For, lo, I will command, and I will sift the house of Israel among all nations, like as corn is sifted in a sieve, yet shall not the least grain fall upon the earth.
The Ashanti (Hebrew Edomites) are certainly guilty of leading us into captivity, otherwise they need not have apologised for their role in the trade. I myself visited the “door of no return” at Elmina Castle. The big guns at the castle faced out to sea, bearing mute testimony to local complicity in the trade.
The kings of Dahomey also were guilty. The Ishmaelites likewise were guilty, West coast, East coast and in-between.
So I readily accept that denuding there may have been, just that the cause of it, and the guilt, must be borne at least in part by black African collaborators in the trade. I applaud the Ashanti for owning up to their role. We make it difficult for the other guilty parties if they don’t even know or acknowledge their historical complicity. That in turn will make it difficult for them to atone as Yahweh requires.
Be all that as it may, there remain many Israelite and partially Israelite tribes in Africa. The Igbo are prime among them as I’m sure you are aware. (Phonetically, Igbo may be rendered Eebo, even Heebo. The resemblance to Hebrew will be obvious.) Therefore, a return to Africa for us slave descendants can continue to resonate at many levels. Our ancestors were there, and our Hebrew Israelite brethren are still there, literally scattered all over Africa. Therefore there is a real sense in which we can lay claim to an “African” vibe and identity.
I am merely suggesting that we also embrace the truth that there are four dominant and frequently warring strains of African — the Hamitic (Kushite, Mizraimite, Canaanite, and Phutite), Hebrew Ishmaelite, Hebrew Edomite, and Hebrew Israelite. It is from the last that we of the Middle Passage descend by paternal bloodline.
That said, I admire your invariably graceful contributions, and always look forward to them. Same with Selwyn Cudjoe. You Lit. majors are blessed with an extra inner sight, I think because you habitually exercise other than the five material senses. If only our more wearisome five-sense brothers could do the same.
Go well also.
Shalom.
PS.
Cousin Linda, I have a Williamsville connection also. In fact I visited some country cousins there not that long ago, about two months. Staunch Anglicans. Love them dearly. But they had a hard time believing that we are Israelite. I get that a lot.
Anyway, next time I will ask if they know you.
Come to think of it, I have distant family named Williams, and the thought never occurred to me before now that they might have something to do with the naming of Williamsville.
Shalom.
Excellent task you are engaging in Cuz Yoruba Israelite, and let me add, most appreciative.
One must do whatever is in one’s power, to encourage enlightenment amongst , the obviously ignorant , misguided , delusional masses, whose minds are often saturated with poisons, via false education- another vestige of barbarian massa control,mind you. The other , one can add, was using our gullible ,women , for sexual releases, as baby machines, and in the case of our men … well, fill in the blanks.Surprise , surprise , Uncle Obama , Madame L’s , dear 1 term President, cannot find his way- but a different story for another occasion.
On a more serious note , tell you what my friend ,if you didn’t already, and now wish to get to work- and write a book, expanding on this here subject ,as to who we truly are – the exact subject I was discussing with a Trini Afrikan, fake Christian brotha around 7:05 am today- I personally ,would not only use my resources to see it publish,but also put on the curriculum of study of every child on the planet, for so vital I think it is.
What say ye, to progress towards a new end game ? Enough with dem escapist novels , and over the top praises for undeserving folks.
So desperate are our people for real knowledge , and a real identity/ quest for self love,that I could not help but be amazed that the name of the local currency, in one of my favorite Afrikan countries Angola ,is Kwanza, and it’s also the name of a celebratory period of our many of our Afrikan disperse , ex slave folks ,in these United States , aka ,land of de free.
http://www.mashpedia.com/Angolan_kwanza
http://www.officialkwanzaawebsite.org/index.shtml
Any thoughts,on our people’s search for the truth in both context?
Neal,
Thanks for the compliments, and for the encouragement. Thanks also for the suggestions and questions. You give me a lot to think about.
1) Re book publishing. That would help my mission, and therefore I would welcome it. I have put some material on the website http://lawoftheholycovenantfoundation.org. My contact information is on there. If you write me offline I’d be happy to pursue further.
2) Re kwanzaa. Thanks for the links. Definitely I’m no fan of Prof. Karenga’s made-up celebration. As an aware and observant Israelite, the matter is simplicity itself. All the high holy days we are supposed to follow are prescribed by Yahweh. Nowadays we think we have a choice in the matter, but actually we don’t.
As I write this for example, we are in the middle of an 8-day Feast of Tabernacles (Leviticus 23:34-36), which I am observing, and putting up with mosquitoes and etc. as I sleep out of doors. On a back porch so at least I don’t get rained upon. Our ancestors wandered for 40 years in the desert and put up with worse! This feast of Tabernacles is a reminder of where we came from, and puts things in perspective. A week ago was the Day of Atonement. Last April was the Passover, and the Feast of Unleavened Bread. Etc.
Christmas is a pagan retention expressly forbidden by Yahweh (Jeremiah 10:1-5). Kwanzaa is an improvement on Christmas, but it is still another thing made up by man’s fertile imagination. It is better that we study our holy book, and obey the word of God. All else is vanity and things wherein there is no profit (Jeremiah 16:19).
Scripture put us on our guard when it records the words of Moses 3,500 years ago: “Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of Yahweh your God which I command you” (Deuteronomy 4:2).
Before you even ask, no I’m not doing burnt offerings or anything else that requires the intermediation of a functioning Levitical priesthood. But those will be reinstituted after Yahweh’s return (see Ezekiel 43:4,18).
3) Re Angolan kwanza. I have no opinion on it. But the hand of the Beast is evident, given the destruction of the value of the original kwanza, followed by the introduction of the novo kwanza, followed by its destruction and the introduction of the readjusted kwanza, followed by its destruction, and the introduction of a plain old kwanza all over again.
The people of Brazil, Argentina, and Zimbabwe have all been similarly looted.
And the people of America are being likewise looted as we speak: “a sword is upon her treasures; and they shall be robbed” (Jeremiah 50:37).
-o-
We can take comfort in the fact that 3,500-year old prophecy is being fulfilled exactly as prophesied, and right on time. It is the very fulfillment that lets us know the necessity of returning unto Yahweh as the time comes near for his return.
Isaiah 55:7
Let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts: and let him return unto Yahweh, and he will have mercy upon him; and to our God, for he will abundantly pardon.
Shalom.
You are welcome , and thank you cuz Yoruba Israelite. I will get in touch.
Years ago, I gave an extremely naive ,Jamaican young , lady colleague, a book ,for her 27th birthday. Not sure if she was able to reap any benefit, for so insecure was she ,as well as psychologically poisoned , and or ,troubled by self hating child hood demons- an unfortunate reality ,of too many of our post slavery women,one must add.
The name of that book was ” never eat alone.”
http://www.amazon.com/Never-Eat-Alone-Secrets-Relationship/dp/0385512058
In it ,the author, extolled the virtues of networking. Something, I am certain ,you -by taking this step- are proving to be quite aware of , especially ,if you were fortunate to get the solid indoctrinations, of someone like ,de wisest woman dat ever lived , in my luving Granny- as I was.
If so, you too will remember the fine expression,’one hand can’t clap,’ yes?
Stay strong my friend, and let’s continue to redefined the end game, as we strive to make a difference,in dat Hobbesian world, that is definitely “nasty , brutish , and short,” without too much gloating ,and Lot’s wife -like ,over de shoulder peeking- but thread steadfastly forward ,while remaining ,ever so humble.
Cousin Neal,
Thank you for that. One hand can’t clap, lol! Yes, I well remember the expression, and you’re right about networking, or at the very least, each one teach one.
Yahweh has sent me to do that and I do my best to present his word in truth. I generally seek guidance when I write, and if at all it shows, you can be sure that all praise is due to Yahweh, not I.
I will look forward to hearing from you.
Shalom.
A man on trial now in the US, dubbed the Doctor of Death, a Russian, has been charged with arms sales and war materiel from the Rusian stockpiles to African groups “To foment war in Africa, for profit” He is a former Russian oficial who thought that abandonned stockpiles of weapons could be profitable, while watching Africans kill each other off.
This is exactly what happened for four hundred years in Africa. Outsiders started and encouraged wars, then sold weapons so that warriors could capture their traditional enemies and sell them for profit. If the Ashanti did this more thn other ethnic groups, it must be because they were more ORGANIZED as a people, than other groups.
All African regard Africa as their Mother. It occurs it their poetry, their music, their novels. They had ways of mediating confict that are still used today. So strong was the prohibition against murder that if a man killed another, all of his goods and lands were forfeit and he had t go into exile for a period of years- he and his entire family.
Wrestling among the Igbo was an honored tradition, but as soon as your opponent touched the ground, the match was over. Compare that to the fighting done by gladiators, where even if the winndr wanted to save the life of his defeated opponent, the crown, inluding the women, yelled for his head to be cut off.
The Europeans took that fight to the death policy to Africa, and you see it today in Congo, Darfur and other places.The Ashanti wre good business people.
The romans too sold their enemies taken in battle into slavery, but the leaders were made to commit suicide after being paraded through the streets, by being made to jump off a cliff.
When we speak of barbaric cultures…
When a wrong has been committed, we seek someone to blame. That is understandable. The trans-Atlantic slave trade was a great wrong, and we, its victims, have been casting around for the right party to blame for a long time.
We should start first with ourselves. Scripture gives us not just a clue, but draws a picture, repeated at many places, that puts us squarely in the frame. We disobeyed God, and we broke the vows we took under the Holy Covenant. Moses warned us from the beginning (Deuteronomy 28, Leviticus 26), even before we crossed the Jordan to go into the Promised Land. After we slid into iniquity, various prophets came to read us the riot act before the scattering took place, notably Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezekiel. After the scatterings, various prophets came to let us know how long it would last: Hosea, Daniel, John of Patmos. The end is coming and right on the schedule laid down by these prophets … for those who are given the understanding to sort out the riddles they gave us. So, we were scattered to the four corners, and have had to endure slavery among many other indignities. And now our redemption is coming.
Yahweh’s way is just and equal. He is not politically correct. He is not liberal. He is not conservative. He is no respecter of persons, and no respecter of ideologies. Still less is he a respecter of attitude. He knew we would be casting around to find someone to blame. He told us squarely: “Thou shalt not abhor an Edomite; for he is thy brother: thou shalt not abhor an Egyptian; because thou wast a stranger in his land” (Deuteronomy 23:7). But the Egyptians enslaved us, and the Edomites led us into captivity! Never mind. Yahweh’s way is equal and just. He also says, he who leadeth into captivity, shall go into captivity (Revelation 13:10). So justice will be done, in his way, on his terms, and on his timetable. It is a mill that grinds very fine, and everyone will get his just desserts. Starting with the one in the mirror.
But more than that, I am saying all that to say that new attitudes, moreover wrongfully predicated on skin colour or “race”, seeking justification in this or that fact or cultural practice, are also misguided. Or we should get our predicates precisely correct. The proper predicate for this purpose is seedline; not skin colour, and not “race”. Yahweh pronounced on us, the seed of Israel. He has pronounced also on Edom, and Ishmael, and Moab, and Japheth, and etc.
Skin colour has come into the mix and has served to confuse us. White Israelites, identifying with a “white race” formation, betrayed black Israelites. Black Israelites seek common cause with black Edomites, who led us into captivity, identifying with a “black race” formation as providing some ineffable basis for solidarity. Wrong. Yahweh requires us to seek after knowledge, not after politically correct attitude, and not after today’s social designation called “race”, however compelling it appears to be, and whether disguised by land mass designation (Africa vs Europe) or not.
And even after we come to precise knowledge of guilty parties and etc., to temper that knowledge: “thou shalt not abhor…”. It does not remove the hand of judgment nor to whom it points.
Prophets will be sent to speak such judgment, and to warn guilty parties. In pronouncing such words of warning, the prophet does not strike an attitude, although it might seem that way: he merely has to deliver the message straight, and right between the eyes. The guilty and the innocent, both, may then hear, or forebear. But even where prophecies of doom carry a seedline predicate, the individual may yet escape it, for righteousness trumps seedline: “Come out of her my people, that ye be not partakers or her sin” (Revelation 18:4).
I am sorry if all this comes out like a rant, I’m in a rush this sabbath morning. I’m trying to say, basically, get the predicates right; it is not skin colour, nor is it “African” vs “European”. Also, even when the culprits are precisely identified, start with the one in the mirror, and obey Yahweh’s injunction against abhorring even those who led us into captivity. In any case, Yahweh’s justice system grinds exceedingly fine, and everyone will get exactly his just desserts.
Malachi 3:7. Even from the days of your fathers ye are gone away from mine ordinances, and have not kept them. Return unto me, and I will return unto you, saith Yahweh of hosts. But ye said, Wherein shall we return?
Shalom.
Quoting karibkween:
No argument there. But neither is it here or there. Cheikh Anta Diop expended much effort in establishing the antiquity and priority (and blackness) of Egypt. Hindus love to assert the priority of the Rg. Veda. The Chinese are enamored of their ancient unbroken civilization. Etc. None of it amounts to a hill of beans.
The Book of Enoch will predate the Divine Pymander. We know that because Enoch is Noah’s ancestor, and everyone on the planet descends from Noah. Yes, I know … your archaeologists and other Science-ists will want proof; I now have enough sense to know the word of God when I read it, and that is plenty enough proof for me.
And Yahweh establishes a special seedline from Noah, through Shem, down to Abraham, and down to Israel, for his chosen people. The Egyptians were already established as a great people and civilization when Joseph went down into Egypt, and when the Israelite clan of a mere 70 souls under the patriarch Jacob/Israel followed Joseph down into Egypt. Certainly Israel was no mighty nation at that point. They were as nothing compared to the Egyptians. Four centuries later, when Yahweh brought them out of Egypt, they were two million souls, still nothing compared to Egypt, and made to wander in the desert like nomads for 40 years. Nothing of ancient glory there, compared to the Egyptians, or Babylonians, or Assyrians, or Elamites, etc.
Nevertheless. Yahweh chose Israel. David and Solomon achieved glory and greatness in their day. But certainly no claim of civilizational priority is made for David and Solomon. That is not the point.
The point is that Yahweh chose Israel to be his people, to be his witnesses, to be the ones to hear his testimony, and to be the people through whom the other nations will come to know him.
Isaiah 43:10-11. Ye are my witnesses, saith Yahweh, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me. I, even I, am Yahweh; and beside me there is no saviour.
The earlier established nations — Egypt, Babylon, etc. — had gone far away from him with their rebellion and idolatry, and he chose a weak and defenceless people to bear witness to his power as he raised them up.
Isaiah 44:9. They that make a graven image are all of them vanity; and their delectable things shall not profit; and they are their own witnesses; they see not, nor know; that they may be ashamed.
The final point lies in prophecy yet to be fulfilled. For it is in the coming kingdom of Yahweh that his chosen children of Israel will rule.
Daniel 7:9-14. I beheld till the thrones were cast down, and the Ancient of days (note: Yahweh) did sit, whose garment was white as snow, and the hair of his head like the pure wool: his throne was like the fiery flame, and his wheels as burning fire. I beheld then because of the voice of the great words which the horn spake: I beheld even till the beast was slain, and his body destroyed, and given to the burning flame. As concerning the rest of the beasts, they had their dominion taken away: yet their lives were prolonged for a season and time. I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the Son of man (note: Yeshua or Christ) came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days, and they brought him near before him. And there was given him dominion, and glory, and a kingdom, that all people, nations, and languages, should serve him: his dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and his kingdom that which shall not be destroyed.
Note here that the Ancient of days (i.e. Yahweh) is seen in Daniel’s vision as having woolly hair, while of course Yeshua is described as having not only woolly hair, but skin the colour of fine brass as though burned in a furnace, therefore black (Revelation 1:13-15).
Revelation 21:10-12,24-26.
And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and shewed me that great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God, Having the glory of God: and her light was like unto a stone most precious, even like a jasper stone, clear as crystal; And had a wall great and high, and had twelve gates, and at the gates twelve angels, and names written thereon, which are the names of the twelve tribes of the children of Israel
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And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it. And the gates of it shall not be shut at all by day: for there shall be no night there. And they shall bring the glory and honour of the nations into it.
Oh, and the aforementioned book of Enoch (http://www.hermetics.org/pdf/enoch.pdf) prophesied the whole thing long before even Noah, let alone Egypt and Babylon.
Shalom.
So if I understand you correctly, Afro-Creoles are the Caribbean branch of Beta-Israel; like the Aethiopian Hamites or Habesha?
Close. Let me clarify.
“Afro-Creoles” are descendants of the victims of the trans-Atlantic slave trade, and so would include our brothers and sisters in the Americas more broadly, not just the Caribbean.
Also, one needs to be careful in defining categories. Beta-Israel literally means “house of Israel”. The house of Israel comprises (i) those who are Israelites of the blood; and (ii) those who are not of the blood, but have joined themselves to the house of Israel through physical mixing, or through joining the vow of the Covenant, and walking the walk of the Israelitess, i.e. partaking of the blessings and the curses.
In the latter regard, recall that it was a mixed multitude that came out with the children of Israel in the Exodus. The non-Israelites of the mixed multitude became one with the house of Israel under the Covenant:
Deuteronomy 29:10-13. Ye stand this day all of you before Yahweh your God; your captains of your tribes, your elders, and your officers, with all the men of Israel, Your little ones, your wives, and thy stranger that is in thy camp, from the hewer of thy wood unto the drawer of thy water: That thou shouldest enter into covenant with Yahweh thy God, and into his oath, which Yahweh thy God maketh with thee this day: That he may establish thee to day for a people unto himself, and that he may be unto thee a God, as he hath said unto thee, and as he hath sworn unto thy fathers, to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob.
So the original covenant-keepers of the house of Israel included strangers who were not of the blood.
The Afro-Creole of the West are of the house of Israel in this broader sense. My sense is that most of us are also Israelites of the blood. But the reassurance is there that all who are walking the walk of the Afro-Creole are also of the house of Israel, and we do not need to take a DNA microscope to our blood, nor find the bones of Jacob to provide the necessary reference sample, for us to *know* that we are of the house of Israel. It is enough that we fulfill all the curses, as a surely suffering people, brought here captive in ships to a land that is not ours.
Note in this context: Deuteronomy 28:45-46. Moreover all these curses shall come upon thee, and shall pursue thee, and overtake thee, till thou be destroyed; because thou hearkenedst not unto the voice of Yahweh thy God, to keep his commandments and his statutes which he commanded thee: And they shall be upon thee for a sign and for a wonder, and upon thy seed for ever.
We *know* who we are because we fulfill all the curses. The curses were to be upon us for a “sign”, and upon us “for ever”, i.e. up until Yahweh returns to redeem us. So DNA analysis we don’t need. It would be useless or circular anyway, unless you are sure about your reference sample. And any people (e.g. impostor Jews) who can claim only tenuous historical curses, now no longer even present, clearly do not fit. They certainly should not presumptively be the ones to put up the reference DNA sample.
Having said all that, I have no problem accepting that the beta-Israel of Ethiopia are who they say they are, i.e. of the house of Israel. It certainly would comport with the fact that they are also known as “Falasha”, which means “stranger” in some or other language of the mostly Kushite hosts.
But this raises the point that the Ethiopians are a Kushitic people, by and large. They are Hamitic, as you mention, which means that they are not Shemitic, therefore not Israelite. So the beta-Israel of Ethiopia are not Hamites, rather strangers (Falasha) living among Hamites of the Kushitic strain.
Let me take the opportunity to also make the point that Sheba was a Kushitic tribe:
Genesis 10:7. And the sons of Cush; Seba, and Havilah, and Sabtah, and Raamah, and Sabtechah: and the sons of Raamah; Sheba, and Dedan.
So the dalliance of King Solomon with Makeda, the Queen of Sheba, could not have made of Sheba an Israelite people. If one accepts that the dalliance produced a son, Menelik — according to the Kebra Negast (Ethiopian Chronicles of Kings) — who later became king of Sheba, he would have been an Israelite (by blood) king of an Kushitic people.
That said, modern Ethiopia is a mix of various paternal strains, including a Sabaean strain from South Arabia (Yemen) which by tradition is likely Shemitic, not Hamitic. But there is no claim that the Sabaeans are Hebrew Israelites.
The beta-Israel of Ethiopia are “strangers in a land that is not theirs”. Their return to Israel (they were required to convert to Talmudic Judaism) under the impostor Jews has not been good for them. They have suffered terrible discrimination, thereby validating their claim, under the curses, to be beta-Israel!
Pardon the lengthy response. I wanted to dispel the notion that the Ethiopians, as a whole people, are Hebrew Israelites, merely because scattered Israelites, the beta-Israel, took up residence among them, and merely because Solomon had a dalliance with Sheba.
Shalom.
Unless Enoch was born beneath the Southern Meri-dian and on the African continent, or as the Catholics say (Hail Meri, mother of God) he cannot lay claim to first. The Noachian flood legend is the common property of the world’s indigenes; so what do we do with Enoch’s contemporaries?
http://www.masseiana.org/cory_fragments.htm#1
“The earliest intelligence manifested in heaven above to man below, which made the primal appeal to his apprehension, was shown in periodic recurrence; the intelligence of the starry serpent annually crawling round; and mythology proper begins with the founding of time on the cyclic movements of the heavenly bodies. The twin beings of the Avesta, who are the Two Truths of light and dark personified, are yet considered to be sons of time without bounds, who became the demonstrators of time within the primary bounds of night and day; the twins of twilight. It was by drinking the amrit juice of immortality that the dragon of darkness, as Rahu, was transformed into one of the keepers of time, and figured in heaven at the place where he had been cut in two. By drinking of this juice he had got ‘time in his body,’ and thenceforth could not be destroyed. The elementaries acquired their souls as timekeepers; the soul and time being synonymous as Seb (Eg.). Rahu became one of the kronotypes as the dragon of the annual eclipse, because he now possessed a soul, or was fabled to have drunk of the immortal juice.
It is one of the kronian gods who is described in the Books of Enoch and Daniel as the ‘Ancient of Days.'[5] Also the typology of parent and offspring or father and son applied to deity, was founded on the series and sequence of the time-cycles, as a human mode of expressing known phenomena, and not under a pretence of revealing the unknown. The god, whether stellar, lunar, or solar, was born of the cycle of time.”
http://www.masseiana.org/ngbk9.htm#50
Enoch might have been A Nok; that would definitely make him Yoruba; but it would not make him an Israelite.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EB4TVq8ek8s&feature=related
A treatment on Yoruba religious customs:
http://www.njas.helsinki.fi/pdf-files/vol16num1/balogun.pdf
Reads much more like the Divine Pymander than the Holy Bible.
The Yoruba, although partially Israelite by paternal line, owe their religion to Egypt (Km.t; Mizraim) more so than to Moses. See J. Olumide Lucas, The Religion of the Yoruba.
Shalom.
Enoch is neither Yoruba nor Israelite. He is a progenitor of Noah. Therefore, he is progenitor of everyone on the planet.
Shalom.
Woogey Boogy shake a stick at the sky, bone through the nose, poppy cock! Blood Samples will prove it. Until then, it’s just voodoo redifined as fact or truth. Whatever is being smoked around here should remain illegal if the end result has people spreading all of this misinformation.
Sometimes, people like Curtis pooh pooh the information and beliefs of others because they know things he didn’t.Its like the boys on the corner ridiculing the scholar as he passes by. They have no books and are only interested in pitching marbles and fantasizing about women they see in the movies.
Now, the Discovery Channel, Ethiopian documented beliefs, and oral information obtained from Africans currently living in Tanzania and Malawi, reveal a srtong connection between the people we call Jews, and the people of those regions.It was not connected to the slave trade, but goes much further back than that. The Arc of the Covenant is believed to be kept securely in a shrine in Ethiopia. Only one person is ever allowed to visit the inner sanctum, but both the Jews and the Ethiopians believe it. In Ethiopia also, there are Jewish people who are believed to be directly descended from King Solomon. The young American who followed this story down into East Africa as far as Malawi found that The Star of David- same as was usd on policemen’s badges in TnT is found among the icons of the Christian people there, and many of their faith actions, follow the patterns of Jewish forms of worship, and they have been doing this for hundreds of years.
This is not to say that everything that Yoruba Israelite says is scientific fact, but in recent years, scientists have found that there really was a great flood, around the same time as the Biblical Flood, and that around the time of Jesus’ birth, very bright comet wasv isible in the sky for a long period, so the wise men, coming from three directions, and following the star, could have actually gotten to where they said, they were going.
There is a lot we do not all know yet, even though we claim to be educated.
My mother always said what has not met you yet, hasn’t passed you either.
As an aside, if people said that plants talk, some people may ask what they were drinking or smoking, but scientists have found that acacia trees growing on the savans of Africa can talk to each other, and the ones further down the stroll of a giraffe nibbling, put out a poison to prevent them from being eaten. It is the plants communicating to make sure the young shoots are not all eaten.
The fact that you do not know something, Curtis, does not make it nonsense.
I once told some of my students that Christ was actuallly born on or around April 14th, and they were very upset. I had spoilt their Christmas, and so they challenged it. I sent them to check, and they found that it was an administrative decision made by one of the popes and his counselors to move the birthday celebration to Dec. 25th. The evidence was there all the time, however. Lambing time in the northern climates is spring. That is why the shepherds were watching their flocks. They always stay out in the fields in case the sheep have difficulty birthing, they would hear the bleating, and go help. We were not looking at the evidence, but it was there all long.His earthly father was a carpenter, but he was constantly associated wtith lambs and shepherds, because of when he was born.
Sometimes, one has to sit quietly and litsen, to learn something.
Ms.Edwards:Do you honestly and consciously accept the biblical account in Genesis : “that life on planet earth began with two human beings;and a serpent which spoke?”
K.I.S.S. ( keep it simple students) Please save me from the agony of your diatrbe.
OOPS! permit me to correct “a typo” DIATRIBE is the proper word.
A word to the wise: DO NOT ACCEPT “literally” everything which is written in the Bible.Also,Genesis is “not” the first book of the Holy Bible.
Always ask God for “wisdom”
By the way, the Roman records of the time of the cricifixion, records the execution of a man who proclaimed to be king of the jews. I have not seen the record myself, because I neither read LAtin nor Aramaic.but a history professor who was on an exchange program while I was at UWI, saw them.
Similar accounts of Origin Stories occur in the creation myths of many First Nations people whom you call American Indians, as well as in other cultures. the Genesis story is a mythological account of creation.Is this simple enough for you, my child?
When you refer to the original inhabitants of North America (2011) they are “aboriginals” Thanks for the class of ’67. Even your sentence structure belongs in that era.You remind me of my great grandmother who told us stories (ghost) which scared us so that we retired to bed much earlier.The University of British Columbia offers some relevant courses in “Critical Thinking”. This child will pay for your tuition. “Better late than never”
Well said, Cousin Linda.
I am guided to quote the following scripture:
Zechariah 1:14-17. So the angel that communed with me said unto me, Cry thou, saying, Thus saith Yahweh of hosts; I am jealous for Jerusalem and for Zion with a great jealousy. And I am very sore displeased with the heathen that are at ease: for I was but a little displeased, and they helped forward the affliction. Therefore thus saith Yahweh; I am returned to Jerusalem with mercies: my house shall be built in it, saith Yahweh of hosts, and a line shall be stretched forth upon Jerusalem. Cry yet, saying, Thus saith Yahweh of hosts; My cities through prosperity shall yet be spread abroad; and Yahweh shall yet comfort Zion, and shall yet choose Jerusalem.
A word to the wise to Curtis. You are treading on dangerous ground, when you mock the word of God. You do not wish to displease Yahweh.
Yahweh uses signs to communicate with his children. There is a logic to it, used even in the much vaunted Science of the day. A sign is an indicator of something else that may be reliably, repeat reliably, inferred when the sign occurs. The reliability of what may be inferred from a sign rests on it being pre-arranged. That is the logic of a password, the use of which originated in war. If you know the pre-arranged password, you get to, well, pass. Otherwise you might be put summarily to death. So a pre-arranged password is a reliable sign, that will distinguish between friend and foe.
I do not need to mention that passwords are critical to computer security nowadays. And if you know anything about the science of communication, you would know about the metalogic of signs, and why they may achieve the kind of reliability that amounts to certain knowledge, as opposed to inferential or speculative guesswork.
The key to achieving sure reliability is that the sign has to be pre-arranged. That is the logical point of prophecy. God tells us what he is going to do, ahead of time, so that when what is prophesied happens as prophesied, we may reliably infer that it is the hand of a living God that is at work.
Therefore, the way that we *know*, not speculate, or guess, that we the Afro-Creole of the Americas are of the house of Israel, is that we fulfill the prophecies which Yahweh pre-arranged as the sign that in fact we would need in the latter day. The inference from it is reliable and sure.
By contrast, resort to DNA analysis would be guesswork from the beginning. DNA analysis would only be as reliable as the reference sample against which to make a match. The only reference sample that would put paid to guesswork is a sample from the biblical Jacob, and he is not here to give it. The so-called Jews cannot be a source for the reference sample, because Scripture puts us on notice that there would be “them which say they are Jews and are not, but do lie” (Revelation 3:9). See also Revelation 2:9. See also Daniel 11:14.
Therefore it would be illogical to insist that there be any reference sample, of anyone on the planet, purporting to be a Jew, that could be used for the purpose. The logical fallacy that would be entailed is called “begging the question”, or assuming that which rather should be proved.
DNA cluster analysis also will not help you, first for the same reason of circularity as it pertains to your reference sample, but second, also, because with clusters, the only conclusions that may be drawn will carry a probabilistic hedge. In other words, the conclusions cannot be reliably drawn, even if you were certain about the overall validity of the reference sample.
Therefore DNA analysis is to be rejected as unfit for the purpose at hand.
Contrast that with the logic of pre-arranged signs, which by design, allow reliable inference, sometimes even for the smallest gesture, meaningful only to those for whom it is pre-arranged.
Understanding these matters does require one to be of mature intellect, weaned from the mother’s milk (Isaiah 28:9-10). To know is one thing; to explain how it is one knows that they know, that is the difficult thing. And then it further requires one to be unflinching in the search for Truth, accepting as Fact that which clearly is Fact, and going where Fact and Truth lead, regardless of political correctness, or emotional scare words like Booga Wooga (?).
The facts in this case are that we the Afro-Creole of the Americas fulfill all, repeat all, the curses that would be a prophetic sign to let us know in the latter day, that we are Israelites. Note that one of the curses would be that we would be “discontinued from our heritage” (Jeremiah 17:4), so in fact Yahweh needed, precisely, to set up pre-arranged signs and wonders, that we could know, for a surety, exactly who we were. And here it is, he set it up that we would have his book in our hands, from which we would come to know the truth that would make us free.
I stand humbly in awe. It is foolish, uncritically, to talk about Boogie Woogie.
Those with eyes to see, let them see, and with ears to hear, let them hear.
Isaiah 29:18. And in that day shall the deaf hear the words of the book, and the eyes of the blind shall see out of obscurity, and out of darkness.
Shalom.
I’m only interested in facts. This spiritual mumbo jumbo doesn’t hold weight in the grand scheme of things. DNA doesn’t lie. What does any of what has been said about Tanzania, Star of Davis/ Jews, Christianity etc… relate to the apology and lack of reparations to to Africans of the Diaspora who are decendents of people on the other side of the African continent?
The fact that someone can say whatever they want and try to pass it off as fact doesn’t make it fact.
The reality is that we live in a world where little to none of what was stated in spiritual terms has any merrit on the matter that we were originally talking about.
So am I to believe that Africans in TNT or from TNT are actually Jewish or Hebrew? LOL!
What kind of a desperate situation are people in who are clamouring to be something other than what they really are as if it somehow stregnthens thier argument and or improves thier status in society?
I don’t care what someone believes spiritually speaking from a personal standpoint, but to state those personal and unproven beliefs as facts on a public forum is just ignorant.
What if I said that all Afro trinis really come from a planet far far away from here who crash landed on our planet when the continents were still connected in a crash site that spanned what is now South America, Africa, and what is commonly refered to as the Middle East and that one incident spawned intelligent life on earth? How is anything that I just stated any less valid than what anyone else has posted?
As you stated,”the fact that you do not know something, does not make it nonsense”. Fair enough?
Fair enough, Curtis. I’d much rather believe that my ancestors flew in from another planet than to be aligned with an historically proven, global parasite. If I have blasphemed then I look forward to an endless hell without Semitic parasites; it can’t be any worse than this hell with them in it.
The so-called Jews are not of the seed of Shem, rather of Japheth.
They do not fulfill the prophesies required of true Israelites. Therefore they are not Israelites.
When I asset an Israelite identity for the Afro-Creole descendants of the victims of the trans-Atlantic slave trade, I therefore do not assert affinity with the so-called Jews who are indeed a parasite. They are the “synagogue of Satan” (Revelation 2:9).
Shalom.
PS.
The only proper attitude to any question that may be under investigation is whether it is true. Not whether it is politically correct, and not how emotionally satisfying or otherwise it might be. One’s belief has no bearing on what is true.
And nothing is True upon this Earth.
Q. What then should a man do, O Father, to lead his life well, seeing there is nothing here true?
A. Be Pious and Religious, O my Son, for he that does so is the best and highest Philosopher; and without Philosophy it is impossible ever to attain to the height and exactness of Piety or Religion.
My interpretation: Believing in a doctrine of Chosenism is against the Laws of Creation. It is arrogant and a prescription for the loss one’s Soul.
http://www.masseiana.org/divine_pymander.htm
I suggest the Fourth Book called the Key. Yoruba Israelite suggests the book of Enoch preceded these Egyptian Thoth/Thoughts, but it is common knowledge among all ancient societies that Egypt/Thebes was FIRST there before anywhere else was the origin of all things known to Man. As they explained to the Greeks who were want to boast about their antiquity, compared to Egypt, Greece was a mere child.
Fact: the Afro-Creole was taken into captivity in ships.
Fact: the Afro-Creole was sold into chattel slavery.
Fact: chattel slavery, unlike biblical bondage, was a form of slavery from which we could not be redeemed.
Fact: we have become always the tail, never the head.
Fact: the stranger in our midst has risen up high above us.
Fact: the Afro-Creole was discontinued from his heritage — loss of name, loss of culture, loss of history, loss of language, etc.
Fact: the Afro-Creole has been cursed in the city, cursed in the field.
Fact: the Afro-Creole has been cursed in his basket and his store, i.e. poor.
All of these things, and much much more, were prophesied to befall the true Israelites. The Afro-Creole fulfills every one of them.
I too rely only on what I can substantiate. Facts.
Spiritual mumbo-jumbo: Here is a challenge: please define what you mean by this, and how all the facts cited above fall into the category of “spiritual mumbo-jumbo”.
DNA doesn’t lie: If a reference sample is falsified, or mistaken, what will that do to any conclusion that relies on DNA analysis?
Hebrew yes, since descended from Eber through Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.
Jew-“ish” no. The European so-called Jews are not Hebrew at all, rather gentiles of the seed of Japheth, through Togarmah and Ashkenaz. They have appropriated that description — Jewish — even though they are not of the seed either of Israel, or his fourth son Judah. The Afro-Creole is not “Jewish” in the sense that term is used today. The Afro-Creole rather is Israelite, of the seed or house of Israel.
It is a reflection merely of Hollywood and Xtian brainwashing if you find it inconceivable that the Israelites are a black-skinned, woolly-haired people like the Afro-Creole.
If you would actually read and study the Book of Yahweh (aka the Holy Bible) you would find clear evidence that the Israelites, and all the prophets, down to Yeshua (aka Christ), were a black-skinned, woolly-haired people.
If you are interested in facts, as you claim, you would investigate these matters and be able to either refute or accept the claims made, with fact, logic, and argument. Hint: dismissive language like “mumbo jumbo”, and “LOL” do not provide basis for argument from fact, using logic. It does however provide evidence — not your fault — of some serious brainwashing.
My job is to help you understand a) that you have been lied to and brainwashed, and b) that the Book of Yahweh is our (Afro-Creole) story — histories, laws, and prophecies that fully explains our present condition as a people, as well as a coming redemption. It yields its fruits however only to those who indeed are willing to submit humbly to Fact and Truth. You may hear or forebear. But don’t listen to me; read the Book.
Shalom.
All that I know, began in Trinidad, at a small country school where I was allowed to read any and everything in the school lbrary. I regret almost daily the fact that young men do not like books now. One canot debvelop the habits of scholarship on any of the 20 aps. on a cellpdone. A pity. Thanks for the compliment. Writing ten thousand words a day, reduces the possibility of Alstheimers. Keep the mind alive. Challenge your self to think and write daily.
“Fact: chattel slavery, unlike biblical bondage, was a form of slavery from which we could not be redeemed”. That is an opinion not a fact. Besides what was stated about heritage, name, culture, and heritage, everything else is a matter of spiritual belief or opinion. Prophecy is more like mumbo jumbo in my opinion. However, we should all be able to agree that it is only personal belief that does not guide the thought of most people.
The Bible that I have read from very long ago describes Christ as bronze skinned with hair like wool. It doesnt mention African un mixed or creoles. Thate neither her nor there.because it has nothing to do with state sponsored reparartions for the state sponsored crimes against humanity.
It is not brainwashing to seperate personal belief or spirituality from facts that have been prooven. Thus far, nothing that some people have posted will have any effect on reperations. Those statements serve only as morale boosters at best but do not and will not have any effect on the topic.
I have not been brainwashed and i know my family history. Your personal beliefs are just that, but you will not convert me to your voodo. You can hop on one leg with chicken bone through your nose shaking a stick at the sky all that you want to. I will not be moved to accept your point of view. There are no facts behind your argument. You seem brainwashed to want to be something other than what you are. You probably walk around year round in full costume masquarading as something or someone else unable to accept what has happened to you while yearning for more. There is a way and you dont have to look any further than port of spain for the solution. Stop allowing your comrades to play carnival fool year round and take nation building seriously. Independence was the closest thing to reparations that any of us are ever going to see. We have lost the title and position of majority. The whole country was unnfficial reparations in our hands for us to build and grow, but too many wanted to spend the day liming.
Everytime music is played loudly, it seemes like the fete becomes a public strip show. It’s not biblical, but there is a moral evaporation of values that are constructive in regard to the development of any group in any society. While Africans of the diaspora are self destructing, others are moving forward and securing thier futures. Yes we deserve reparations, but who would honestley consider giving reparations to a group of people who seem to be bent on destroying themselves and societal waste? Yes, some form of reparations have been given to other groups, but the “frankenstein” group can’t seem to get love from the international community. Things have gotten so bad, that people like Mamoo (when it comes to the subject of reparations for Africans of the diaspora) ask themselves of what came first, the chicken or the egg? Most people know the answer to that and those in Eurocentric nations pretend as if all levels of discrimination are as a result of some fault made by the person of African heritage. The shameful thing is that these people should not be asking what came first when history tells us. We are suppossed to be accountable and they use that as an excuse to deny us. I say give them no excuse and build what we need to secure our own future. In my mind it would be better to prove my worth than have someone place a price on it. Just allow me to compete fairly without bias and be compensated accordingly for doing so. Spiritual voodoo and mumbo jumbo will not make that happen.
Dr. Nantambu, I apologize in advance for straying off topic, but I am compelled to respond to Curtis.
@ Curtis,
Like you I do not share Yoruba Israelite’s beliefs. However, I will say this. I did do a DNA analysis recently to determine my origins and I do have a significant amount of Arab and Jewish ancestry. It was a Jewish Rabbi-Kohan (A Hebrew Priest), who is also a physician, who confirmed this for me.
The name of the Rabbi-Kohan is Rabbi Shalomin Y. Halahawi and the name of his book is “The Way: The Prophetic Messianic Voice to the path of Edenic Kingdom Redemption.” Here’s some more info about the book:
http://www.authorsden.com/visit/viewwork.asp?id=21613
In chapter 4, he identifies the origins of the ancient Israelites. According to him, they actually originated from India. The name of the actual indigienous group that gave birth to the Hebrews is the Harrapa People.
So in a way, Rabbi Halahawi confirms Yoruba Israelite’s thesis in the sense that the ancient Hebrews were not a European descended people. Where they differ is on the location.
In terms of my personal experience, many would think a regular person of African descent, but I actually have Arabian ancestry in me. This may have resulted from my Jewish or Arab ancestors (Jews and Arabs are basically the same people genetically anyway) would have intermixed with my Sudanese ancestors (which the African side of my ancestry indicated.
For more info on Rabbi Shalomin’s site, you can click here:
http://www.edenic-kingdom.com/index.html
For info on the site where I took my test, you can click here:
http://www.dnatribes.com/order.html
For trinamerican:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3aTxVAWd-I&feature=related
I may not subscribe to everything portrayed in this video but to me any Black claiming Asiatic origins is suspect; for the simple reason that every non-African is part Neanderthal, and no evidence has yet been provided to show the Neanderthal as a REASON-able creature.
Thank you for the link, but there is one thing that many in the world fail to realize and that is that not everyone with brown skin or kinky hair has necessarily originated in Africa. In fact, if you were to read about Dr. HalaHawi’s background, he has traced his genetic origins back to Israel and the Middle East. Of course, if one were to look at him, they would think, he must be descended from Africa.
But he is not. He is a brown-skinned Mizrahi Israelite.
The mainstream media has deceived the unsuspecting world more than people realize. Many indigenous Arabs are in fact dark in complexion and are not slaves. Of course, in line with its demonic ideology of white supremacy, the media only portrays the descendants of the Turks and Persians who adopted Arab culture. There is more info about black Arabs in this link:
http://savethetruearabs.com/index.html
Here are some more contemporary struggles occurring with indigenous dark-skinned Arabs in the Middle East:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPkoAKwrfxs
The plight of the black Iraqis
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2oUvT0fBUmQ
If I may be permitted a reference to my favourite movei, the Matrix, you will be surprised how deep the rabbit hole goes.
You are right when you say “blacks” as in the desecendants of the West African slaves are NOT related to their dark-skinned Arab brethen any Semitic strain found among them would have most likely occurred as a result of intermixing.
The simplistic white supremacist doctrine has tried to reduce the scientific complextiy of ethnic identity to “black” and “white” when such terms really do not make sense.
In a nutshell, kinky hair and dark skin do not necessarily mean that someone originates from the African continent.
That is a lie that has been disseminated by a white supremacist culture bent on eradicating all evidence of the presence of dark-skinned peoples in other parts of the world.
I doubt anyone argues, in this 21st century; age of information, that kinky haired blacks or modern humans originating on the African continent migrated to every continent on the planet. Even if their true descendents are no longer to be found amongst the current inhabitants, their imprint or phenotype remains, as a testament to their antecedence, on all the ancient monuments.
The Hebrew religion did not originate in India. That is a guileful farce designed to steal history, and no different than what was covered in Stolen legacy by James Jackson.
Active Aryan life and belief systems began around 3000 BC. Certain parts of Asia, High Asia, became too cramped for this bi hominid race that had become distinct by its inbreeding with neanderthals. They seeped into different parts of the continent, including southward into India. These were Aryans and semites, the therm semite is derived from the belief that the group was descended from Shem.
There has always been a design by people of Aryan extraction to usurp history that did not originate from them. The original Indo-European society developed in the geography of Eastern Europe around 3000 B.C. It disintegrated around 2500 B.C segments of the population migrated in different directions. Some migrated to different parts of what is now Europe. Others migrated across Iran and Afghanistan and eventually moved into India. Everywhere they settled, they over came the existing populations and imposed their rulership on them.
Herodotus, who is considered by Aryan culture to be the father of their history described the Egyptians as, quote, they are black skinned and have wooley hair, (see Herodotus, The Histories translated by Aubrey de Selincourt in 1955). The religious and spiritual beliefs of Egyptians, were products of Ancient Cushite mythologies and beliefs. The three major religions, Judaism, Christianity and Islam are sub products that belief system. For example, the name Adam in Egyptian translates into Father of Mankind. Shem, from which the name semites derive in Egyptian translates into traveler or nomads.
Hebrews spent thousands of years in Africa and adopted the Eqyptian culture including language and religion. When they left Egypt, in fact were kicked up after controlling and oppressing the people they found there for hundreds of years, they embellished all that they had adopted, and claimed that it originated with them.
Doctor Yosef A.A. ben-Jochannan, Francis Cress Weslin, the great Cheik Ante Diop, John Henry Clarke, and many other African historians and scholars have debunked the Aryan myths that have been circulated to obfuscate the African presence in History. The fact is, the African is the original man and woman, and everyone else is a mutation produced by inbreeding with neanderthals and confinement within geographies inundated with ice caps and no sunlight for thousands of years.
The word Semite comes from the word anti-semitism; its strange that the positive came from the negative but it is true, and the word is as recent as the late 19th century and it was exclusive to European Jewry.
The Nazi regime was against the genetic pollution of their pure Aryan race and viewed everyone else (not blonde haired nor blue eyed) as the corruption of Aryan blood.
The corruption of the term Semi with Shemu was done either deliberately or ignorantly well after the fact. But science is now proving that Hitler’s scientists were right to define European Jews as Semi/Half-Aryan/Caucasoid, their error was in not understanding that Aryans were also a by product of African-Modern Human and Neanderthal interbreeding.
Correction:
replace Shemu
with Shemsu (Shemsu-Hor; Disciples/Followers/Servants/Slaves of Horus)
The point of my comments were to try to get people to keep religion seperate from common facts. Spiritual facts are somethings that individuals agree to believe in, however, common facts reflect the facts as they were recorded by the world. Many Palestinians bileve that the Haulocaust didn’t happen, but most of the world knows and agrees to the fact that it did for example.Most of us agree that 1+1=2. What does quoting religious scripture do for this discussion?
WORDS OF WISDOM……….
Well in case you didn’t get my previous reply, I will add this, how can one build something with no foundation? The reason that the Indians are so successful in Trinidad and Tobago is because they know who they are.
The reason why the African-descended people have had problems in Trinidad and Tobago is because the family unit has broken down and the Chrisitan value that their recent historical forbears heralded so much have ceased to be relevant.
Why do you think the people of the African Diaspora are self-destructing? Don’t you think it is because they are without any sense of history and historical foundation? How can Africans in the Diaspora build anything when their original foundation was based on sand and their psyche has been damaged.
When you speak about the dysfunctions of the African community, you are describing symptoms. In order to properly treat a disease, one has to attack the cause and that cause is historical and cultural amnesia.
Until this is addressed, then I am afraid that the vicious cycle of “African” (whatever that term means) underachievement will continue.
Curtis said, “many Palestinians bileve that the Haulocaust didn’t happen, but most of the world knows and agrees to the fact that it did.” Please do not distort the thinking of the numerous frustrated Palestinians who have since 1948 , endured a systemic onslaught of genocide , and state orchestrated terrorism by a heartless , bunch of people, as articulated so well, by of all people Peace-nick, Jimmy Carter. What they are beginning to suspect is what many decent folks globally are coming around to understand, and that is that these destructive , selfish evil people that leads the oppression against them cannot be the Jews that were referred to in the Bible. Now time to end the historical revisionism .
Hey cuz Yoruba Israelite, see why we should ‘get a stepping,’ on this long overdue enlightenment project,to offer ,’educação’ for de clueless masses?
For de record , there has not been a race of people,on ‘Afrikan SunGod’s’ earth, that has been as dispersed , abused , prosecuted , despised by all and sundry , than Afrikan folks, originally from the Virgin Continent of Eden.
Many today , have unfortunately inculcated the evil tendencies fostered on them , but 99% of the time ,tend to attack- ‘not the other’ as some of these ungrateful, thieving bozos,like to erroneously claim – but instead on themselves,and that’s a sad historically tragedy, and or, scientifically, verifiable fact.
Then , ‘He dat has eyes to see , let him see, and ears to hear ….?’ Well, take it away mi amigo.
By de way , stand by.
Perhaps I gave a poor example. I should have said the Iranian leaders name. The Jewish masses were forced to mix with the Europeans especially in Germany. That is historical fact. Neal, I attack where I see wrong. Just because someone has a spiritual belief about something doesn’t mean that the world has to buy into the voodoo. All of that spiritual witch craft is what made Tarzan the King of the jungle in the first place. We are going back and forth because some comments are so far off topic and have no real significance to the topic. Praying for reperations is like asking the cousin who always breaks his promise for salvation or something else that he cannot a) deliver or B) lacks the power and will to do so.
It’s not about being educated, but it is about knowing how to use that education. There is a reason why religion isn’t taught at public schools. You can’t confirm most of it. You just have to have faith.
Well, Neal, we can at least try, re the education project, and the correction of the so-many lies, distortions, and half-truths which end up being whole lies.
The brainwashing is so deep that some think that facts are no longer facts when they are spoken of in the Holy Book.
I never forget a Chemistry teacher I once had saying that Science requires that we sit always humbly before Fact and Truth. Guess what, the Book of Yahweh says the same thing: “And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free” (John 8:32).
Truth and fact are not qualified. They simply are. Neither religious persuasion, nor scientific pretension, are appropriate qualifiers.
Nowadays we have been brainwashed into thinking that the Book of Yahweh is about belief. That is not the case. It is about history (i.e facts), laws (i.e. facts), and it is about prophecies (i.e. predictions about facts that will come to pass). Beliefs are secondary, as what arises from knowledge:
Isaiah 43:10. Ye are my witnesses, saith Yahweh, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me.
The children of Israel were chosen to be witnesses (as to facts) of Yahweh’s coming, and the miracles that he performed: bringing the children of Israel up out of captivity — the two million odd souls taken from Pharaoh, the plagues that led to it, the parting of the Red Sea, the manna sent from heaven, the bringing forth of water from a rock in the desert, the parting of the river Jordan, so the Israelites could walk over dry-shod, etc. etc. The children of Israel were literal witnesses to these literal events. These are recounted as facts. Not as spiritual facts, but as facts, period.
From this vantage point in time, we the descendants of the children of Israel cannot speak to these facts as could the original witnesses. We were not there. So we are not compelled to believe that they took place. (But we may find corroboration for example of the 10 plagues in Egyptian papyri, e.g the Ipuwer papyrus.)
However, what we can speak to as facts are our present condition, and the condition of our recent forebears. And we can check, yes or no, whether the recent experience of slavery entered into via the trans-Atlantic slave trade, and suffered by our recent forebears, fulfill the terms of the prophecy at Deuteronomy 28:68, read at least in the context of Deuteronomy 28:46, which said that the curses would be for a “sign”. It is a simple matter, actually. All it requires is for one to sit humbly before Fact and Truth.
I will not again recite all the facts that match up against the prophecy. And I will especially not do so for the benefit of those who cannot distinguish a fact from an opinion. Those who deliberately separate themselves from plain facts will have no place in Yahweh’s kingdom, that is for sure, for there is no truth in them. And those who mock God, who went to a great deal of trouble to prepare his testament for our benefit, will likewise have no place in Yahweh’s kingdom.
It is fashionable nowadays to set any manner of belief system over or equal to the knowledge of God’s testament. I have read the Book of Yahweh cover to cover, and continue to read from it daily. I have yet to find a passage where Yahweh states opinion instead of fact, or requires belief that is not founded on knowledge, and the tangible evidence provided by two or more witnesses.
Even Swami Yogananda understands clearly the principle, when he states: “It is never a question of belief; the only scientific attitude one can take on any subject is whether it is true.” (Autobiography of a yogi.)
It is in that spirit that we surely need to re-educate our brainwashed brethren. In that effort I will waste little time on the mocking pretenders. I am, as a servant of Yahweh, obliged to blow a trumpet, to wake them up. If they choose to remain asleep, then the destruction to come is on them. I will continue to do my duty. They may hear, or forebear.
Shalom.
“before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me.” A fact contained in your Holy Bible
For his Operation or Act is his Will, and his Essence, to Will all things to be…For what is God, and the Father, and the Good, but the being of all things that yet are not, and the existence itself, of those things that are!…This is God, this is the Father, this is the Good, whereunto no other thing is present or approacheth…But God is the Father, and the Good, in being all things; for he both will be this, and is it, and yet all this for himself in him that can see it. Facts contained in the Divine Pymander
The difference is one Theurgy is INCLUSIVE and the other EXCLUSIVE. One perceives to know God’s mind, despite the fact that both admit: NO THING and NO ONE was present nor APPROACHETH and NONE There AFTER. The other presents the choice of knowing/recognizing that PART of the ONE/GOD which is in ALL.
“From one Soul of the Universe, are all those Souls, which in the world are tossed up and down, as it were and severally divided.”
So you see whatever you choose to call him/her/it; what should be obvious is that the Creator cannot choose; to have a chosen people would be like you choosing one part of your body over another. Pure Energy is Indifferent.
Know the Truth and the Truth will set you free my friend. I know you don’t know the truth because you wont be here prosyletizing: “For the knowledge of it, is a Divine Silence, and the rest of all senses;”
Kindly reread your posts you might indentify a few of your SENSES run-amock.
My sister,
First: I do not seek proselytes. Nor converts. But I do seek to convert my Israelite brethren from a state of ignorance and wickedness, to a state of knowledge and compliance with the law of the Holy Covenant to which we are subject, like it or not.
“Cry aloud, spare not, lift up thy voice like a trumpet, and shew my people their transgression, and the house of Jacob their sins” (Isaiah 58:1).
I consider it a success if I influence someone to pick up the book of Yahweh and read … no, study … it, from cover to cover. I do not even need to know that they have done so. That is the difference between seeking converts, or proselytes, and seeking to convert.
In that regard, I have the same mission as Isaiah. He was called to “cry aloud, spare not”, not to say smooth things that people would prefer to hear.
Those who are truth-seekers will have their consciences pricked, and intellect piqued.
Those who wish to cling to this or the other prejudice acquired under the Satanically skilled brainwashing of our present age, will turn and go the other way.
Yet others, the intellectually lazy, or lukewarm, will both acknowledge the truth of who we are and our consequent obligations under the Law of the Holy Covenant, yet find it too inconvenient to keep Sabbath, or stop eating swine, etc. Some will even think they’re “saved”, and need no further instruction.
As I said in another post, my duty is simply to blow the trumpet. If I do not do so, I’m answerable. After I do so, you are answerable.
I do not expect to have any better success than Noah, who prophesied the coming flood for 100 years, and no one took him on. Nevertheless he was obedient to his charge, and built his ark. Isaiah too was ignored, Jeremiah likewise. And we the children of Israel have paid the price since.
I do not equate myself to these prophets. But I do know, repeat know, what I’ve been called, and am now obligated, to do. Like Jonah, I might have fled the calling, but it would ultimately be to no avail.
So here I am. Like it or lump it.
That said, let me ignore your other unkind cuts, and address the substantive points you raise. Fact and truth after all are stubborn things, and they certainly are not diminished by unkind cuts.
You cannot equate the Book of Yahweh with the Divine Pymander. The title, “Book of Yahweh”, means what it says: it is the testimony of the Most High God. The prophets who wrote it did so under divine guidance. And one essential part — the ten commandments — were actually inscribed in stone by Yahweh himself. The tablets were kept as articles of tangible evidence in the ark of the covenant, along with an urn full of manna, so that future generations of Israelites could have tangible corroboration of the story as told in the Book of Yahweh.
Therefore the notion of dueling Theurgy is not apt. Note that the scripture you cited (and I earlier) from the Book of Yahweh is in the first person. It is the Most High God himself speaking, with Isaiah merely the mouthpiece: “before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me.” Isaiah does not presume to know God’s mind, he is a mere servant, faithfully speaking the words dictated to him by the Most High.
The Divine Pymander, by stark contrast, speaks of the Most High only in the third person.
The irony is that the truth is exactly the opposite of what you suppose. It is the author of the Divine Pymander who presumes to speak for God.
Here too, you now presume to set limitations on the Most High, when you state: “what should be obvious is that the Creator cannot choose; to have a chosen people would be like you choosing one part of your body over another.”
Huh?! The Most High can do whatever he likes, and does so. And tells us ahead of time what he is going to do. For the time being, the world has been given over to the wicked. He said so. He also said that the time given to them would be limited, although it has been so long, that some of us mistake it for permanence. Not so. Moreover, the time is just about up.
That is why there are many like me, as he said there would be in the latter day: “For I will pour water upon him that is thirsty, and floods upon the dry ground: I will pour my spirit upon thy seed, and my blessing upon thine offspring: And they shall spring up as among the grass, as willows by the water courses” (Isaiah 44:3-4).
But never is there any suggestion that his servants would presume to know the mind of God: “For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith Yahweh” (Isaiah 55:8).
Neither is it any great paradox that the Creator should choose whom he wishes. That is clearly the natural order. There is always one given the power to rule. Others are ruled. It is true anywhere there is organization, and order. Moses was given authority. Miriam and Aaron were rebuked for challenging it. Babylon was given authority. Medo-Persia after it. Greece after Medo-Persia. And the Fourth Kingdom — whose time is only just now running out — was given authority after Greece. Since the end of our captivity (May, 2011) they have been given power to continue 42 months. Within the 4th Kingdom there were prophesied to arise 14 kings or powers. America is one of those. And they today exercise hegemony. So someone, whether for good or ill, for this or that purpose, is always CHOSEN.
We the Israelites are chosen for good rather than ill. But we will be purged of all the rebels, and all those who identify more with Satan and his minions running the 4th Kingdom, than with the Truth of the Most High. The scripture lets us know precisely: two-thirds of us will be purged.
Yahweh could not be clearer about our status as creatures: “Surely your turning of things upside down shall be esteemed as the potter’s clay: for shall the work say of him that made it, He made me not? or shall the thing framed say of him that framed it, He had no understanding?” (Isaiah 29:16).
I perceive that you genuinely seek Truth. Here is a short-cut. Everything you need to know as to your true identity and your ultimate end is in the Book of Yahweh. But you must study it at least as diligently as you now study such speculative science as population genetics and who or what have Neanderthal blood.
A word to the wise: “O Yahweh, my strength, and my fortress, and my refuge in the day of affliction, the Gentiles shall come unto thee from the ends of the earth, and shall say, Surely our fathers have inherited lies, vanity, and things wherein there is no profit” (Jeremiah 16:19).
Shalom.
“My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children” (Hosea 4:6).
“But I do seek to convert my Israelite brethren from a state of ignorance and wickedness”
Sounds eerily familiar to the professed intentions of the enslavers and colonizers of my ancestors, so with all due respect, its a train/ship I shall not board. Been there done that!
Religion or spiritual beleif isn’t always synonymous with history. Yes there may be certain instances when religious history matches the account of scholars from various times and or recorded text, but that doesn’t make them one in the same.
Whenever some “so called” intellectual “dodo” tries to impress upon you his/her religious morality;inform them that:”GOD EXISTS”…and that “God is Spirit” Also inquire:”What is the relevance of Spirit,and the enslavement of the African people?”
Let me give a scriptural and prophetic summation of the question of reparations.
1) We the Negro, or Afro-Creole, descendants of the victims of the trans-Atlantic slave trade, are true Israelites. We are the people of the Book, the Chosen. We were enslaved pursuant to prophecy (Deuteronomy 28:68; Genesis 15:13-14).
2) The key elements are satisfied: i) we came in ships; ii) into chattel slavery — this is implied in the prophecy which characterized the form of bondage as one from which “no man shall buy (redeem) you”. Bondage under Israelite law allowed for, indeed required, redemption (Exodus 21:2; Deuteronomy 15:12; Leviticus 25:49); and (iii) our ultimate redemption would be secured by no “man” — it literally would take the second coming of Yahweh to effect our redemption.
3) Moreover, Yahweh said the true Israelites would be destroyed as a people (Deuteronomy 28:20), and would serve our enemies and those that hate us in “want of all things”: “Therefore shalt thou serve thine enemies which Yahweh shall send against thee, in hunger, and in thirst, and in nakedness, and in want of all things: and he shall put a yoke of iron upon thy neck, until he have destroyed thee (Deuteronomy 28:48).
We do not control the means of production, therefore it is as a captive, largely landless people, a nation of hirelings, that we satisfy all our wants, from food to clothing to shelter to transport and etc.
The stranger would rise up high above the true Israelites: “The stranger that is within thee shall get up above thee very high; and thou shalt come down very low” (Deuteronomy 28:43).
These and all other prophecies of Deuteronomy 28 and Leviticus 26, which also detail the curses, are satisfied by we the Afro-Creole (Negro) descendants of the trans-Atlantic slave trade. Moreover we do so uniquely. No other people on the planet satisfy all the curses. Historical and forgotten fulfillment is expressly excluded, as the curses were to be upon us for a sign and for a wonder and upon us for ever (Deuteronomy 28:46) meaning up until Yahweh’s return.
4) The so-called Jews satisfy the prophecies least of all. Far from being meek, weak, and powerless, they control the world’s money, media, and markets. They buy and sell the souls of men, and brainwash the world into becoming minions of Mammon. That too was prophesied, notably by Daniel (esp. 7:7,19-20). They are Daniel’s 4th beast. And they are Babylon the Great, spoken of in Revelation (17:5 and elsewhere).
5) But their time is running out. The prophecies of Daniel certainly limited the time that the 4th beast would have: “And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time” (Daniel 7:25). John the Revelator lets us know that there would come a time and a circumstance when power would be given unto the beast of the 4th kingdom to “continue 42 months” (Revelation 13:5). The time was May, 2011. The circumstance was the formal end of the captivity of true Israel. Yahweh sent me this information; hear or forebear. So we all have another three years or so to get right with Yahweh and return to the Law of the Covenant. After that will come the fire of Yahweh’s return (Isaiah 66:15). Yeshua Ha Mashiach (Christ) also will come, and will be given power to rule:
Daniel 7:13-14. I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days, and they brought him near before him. And there was given him dominion, and glory, and a kingdom, that all people, nations, and languages, should serve him: his dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and his kingdom that which shall not be destroyed.
And he shall rule with a rod of iron:
Revelation 19:15. And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.
6) And reparations shall be paid. Be clear, scripture prophesies that no one will want to speak of reparations, that is until the Second Coming:
Isaiah 42:22. But this is a people robbed and spoiled; they are all of them snared in holes, and they are hid in prison houses: they are for a prey, and none delivereth; for a spoil, and none saith, Restore.
Therefore all talk of reparations will fail to bear fruit. It will however serve the purpose of giving fair notice.
Nevertheless, Scripture guarantees that reparations will be paid, and in full:
Genesis 15:13-14. And he said unto Abram, Know of a surety that thy seed shall be a stranger in a land that is not theirs, and shall serve them; and they shall afflict them four hundred years; And also that nation, whom they shall serve, will I judge: and afterward shall they come out with great substance.
Moreover:
Isaiah 66:20. And they shall bring all your brethren for an offering unto Yahweh out of all nations upon horses, and in chariots, and in litters, and upon mules, and upon swift beasts, to my holy mountain Jerusalem, saith Yahweh, as the children of Israel bring an offering in a clean vessel into the house of Yahweh.
So all nations will be scrambling all over themselves to pay reparations at that time. It will take the fire of Yahweh, and the fear of Yahweh, to accomplish it. That will be second Exodus, like unto the first Exodus from under Pharaoh. The next time it will be from all nations whither we the true Israelites have been scattered. The ones who will have the most reparations to pay will be the so-called Jews, and our near-brethren the Ishmaelites, both of whom were up to their necks deep in the slave trade — trans-Atlantic, and trans-Sahara. Both of these “trades” involved the true Israelites, the Negroes and Afro-Creoles, as the victims.
More than money, reparations will be in kind. That is what Scripture guarantees. “He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword” (Revelation 13:10).
In other words, what goes around, comes around. That is Yahweh’s law. Some call this karma.
7) So you cannot separate the question of reparations from the matters of prophecy. The Most High has a timetable for these things. As Marley said, “we’ve got to fulfill the Book!”. And most important, when the matter of slavery and reparations are considered, lurking very close behind is the question of biblical identity. For we, the victims of slavery and Yahweh’s many other curses put upon us, are true Israelites of the Book. Our captivity of 400 years has now been formally lifted. We have not noticed it yet; our final redemption is yet to come, but it is near around the corner. In the meantime, we need to heed the words of Yeshua: “And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free” (John 8:32). We need to start shedding all the lies and values of Babylon system, stop serving Mammon, and start serving Yahweh.
Shalom.
Hosea 4:6. My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children.
And now a word from those speculative Scientists:
NASA in Final Preparations for Nov. 8 Asteroid Flyby
http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.cfm?release=2011-332&rn=news.xml&rst=3181
Scientists SPECULATE, that asteroid 2005 YU55 will have no gravitational effect on our planet but haven’t speculated on the Moon’s gravitational effect on 2005 YU55 or vice versa; nor any gravitational effect our planet might have on 2005 YU55; Sleep well.
karibkween:
I am not sure what point you’re trying to make re speculative Science. Are you saying that Science is NOT speculative?
I don’t need to quote Popper, or Hume to sustain the case that Science is necessarily speculative. The reason is simple: man is not in control. At best, man may try to make sense of Effect, but may have no real grasp of Cause. The latter is the preserve of the Most High.
The Most High need not speculate, because he is Cause. He has told the story of Creation and its Purpose in his Testament called the Book of Yahweh. (Not necessarily the whole story, mind.) He does not need to speculate; he knows what he did. He says he stretched out the heavens: “I have made the earth, and created man upon it: I, even my hands, have stretched out the heavens, and all their host have I commanded” (Isaiah 45:12). As metaphors go, that actually makes more sense to me than a “Big Bang”. Out of what? Well, nothing. And expanding into what exactly? Well, er, … mumble, mumble. Does that actually make sense to somebody?
Nonsense dressed up in the garb of higher mathematics is still nonsense, I’m sorry.
Yahweh imposed regularity and Order: “And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also” (Genesis 1:16). He established Order. It is only because there is such Order, that Science is able to track celestial objects with some degree of accuracy. It is not that impressive an accomplishment. Certainly we have been tracking the Sun and the Moon for a long time, without benefit of Science, so called. Diop waxed rhapsodic over what the ancient Egyptians were able to do in developing their Sothic calendar, and in their ability to predict the heliacal rise of Sirius every 1,460 years! Tracking the trajectory of a comet is a like accomplishment: a field effect, observed. Ultimate Cause remains hidden or unknown. Like Descartes said, the God hypothesis is not necessary. Well no, dummy. That’s because you’re only tracking an Effect!
God remains the Ultimate Cause. And God in his testament, does not need to speculate. Unlike man’s attempt at attaining to Science (knowledge).
Shalom.
You forgot that Man is also Cause; (although not the Ultimate Cause) else there’d be no need for “The Sins of the Fathers to be visited upon the Sons” and Theurgy is a Science.
Merriam Webster’s Definition of THEURGY: the art or technique of compelling or persuading a god or beneficent or supernatural power to do or refrain from doing something.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theurgy
You persuade Yahweh by obeying his laws. The stories of Daniel are instructive in that regard.
All the rest of “Theurgy” is idolatry of one form or another.
You forgot that Man is also Cause
At best, in the present context, that’s art and engineering, not Science.
More broadly, I quite agree and did not forget:
Jeremiah 17:10. I Yahweh search the heart, I try the reins, even to give every man according to his ways, and according to the fruit of his doings.
Shalom.
PS. This is way off topic for reparations.
The bible means nothing to those who do not follow it. Science is used or applied everyday. Other than the fact that the two of you are entertaining, I really don’t know why I continue this. Please tell us another story about your ghost and how they relate to reparations! This is truly entertaining!