63 thoughts on “Teachers on corporal punishment”

1. Hey Sara,
   I was just reading your comment about the teachers at the school your child attends. I am a little taken aback though. You see you are saying that the teacher used licks to discipline a child for spelling the word CAT as KAT and you said that is wrong. Well permit me to say if i was that teacher i would look for the parents and beat them. I am a parent as well and i have no problem with a teacher usiong a little licks to discipline my children if necessary because i am educated enough to know that a teacher will not beat a child to cause any injury. You need to discipline children from tome to time. I am sure during the vacations you get so fed-up with your child that you say “Ah doh know wen school go open nah?” So the teachers are the baby sitters for parents like you.
   If you really care for your child then you should be reasonable and understanding. Put yourself in the teacher’s shoe, what would you have done? Have you ever thought of what teachers go through for 6 and a half hours daily while we are enjoying the comfort of a silent home with no one to shout at? Some times a visit my children’s school and speak to their respective teachers and you would not imagine the kind of chaos that takes place in the classroom and the poor teachers have to deal with it while people like you stand at the school gate and do nothing but gossip and bad talk them(the poor teachers), who are doing your job of disciplining your children.
   You see if you do your job as a parent and ensure that your child/children are well disciplined and that you spend quality time with them in their early learning stages, then the teachers would not have to give your child “LICKS.” In other words DO YOUR JOB and let the damn teachers do theirs.

2. As a teacher of language, I feel that Poio has it all wrong. A child spells what he or she hears. If The two words are the same sounds. One is the marijuana used in the Millde East, the other a feline. If the teacher was a better informed person, and more humane, she/he would have gone to the chalk board and pointed out the words, with picture associations. Kat, a tree, cat, an animal. Then let the whole class know the difference. Beating the child instills fear and does nothing to improve understanding. Illustrating the words, and calling them by their technical name-homophones does. Do not think Kindergarten children cannot say or recognize homophones. I see a homework assignment for extra points for each child who brings in a list of five sets.(Parents can help). I see a teacher creating a long list on poster board, for all to learn, and putting up the best written five sets of homework on the board, to inspire others.

   This has nothing to do with the parent, who may herself have been the victim of poor circunstances, and cannot help her child. If they could have been so well taught at home, why are they in school?

   We need to move beyond the master and slave mentality that the British practiced in Africa, India and the Caribbean, and the Spaniards in Venezuela and Columbia, and which we still wholeheartedly endorce in our pedagogical practices,and teach our children with love.It can be done. Our students whose parents migrate to more advanced countries, do not get licks. They are enouraged to excel with positive reinforcements. Now, some knucklehead reading this, will try to find proof by selected instances, to say that I am wrong. When I read their comments, I say thank God they are not teaching my grand children.

3. Further comment to POIO: If trinicenter.com was a teacher of your ilk; you would get a good cut-arse for failing to proofread your work before submisssion. Now, I know exactly how that happens. Tired eyes, focussing more on content that spelling ,and failure to wear required glasses. You typed the lower case “i” for “I” three times and put an extra letter in “Using”. now, would licks make you a better proof-reader of your own writing? Just wondering.Notice how I handled it, I responded first to the general issue, then dealt with you as if I was grading your paper for a “redo” to improve your grade. This is what caring teachers do. I spent nearly fifty years doing it, beginning at age fifteen as a pupil teacher, so please do not pontificate about what teachers today go through. Been there, done that and never quit until I retired at 66.

4. Take that Poio, and put it in your symbolic “ pipe and smoke it,” as we in rainbow country like to sometimes say. I am more concerned about wider abuses and cases of neglect that tend to occur to our children across the globe mainly due to their lack of power. Child labor, child soldiers, sexual exploitations , and victimization due to numerous governmental or social neglect are just a few.
   These however are unrelated to this ‘extremely devastating issue,’ and should be left for debate on a different occasion some might say. Let the discussion rage on therefore as to the merits or demerits of “sparing the rod ,” and or “spoiling the child.”

5. With an objective eye-it is sad to say that the most poisonous people in T&T today are our youths. How often do you see a person over the age of 40 involved in violent crime and when it does occur it’s mostly domestic. The latest bandit to get cut down was 24yrs old-a new era bandit. We have cause and effect along with negligence on the government shoulder. Lack of discipline among our youths, the inability of our teachers to instill traditional values in our young one due to protest by parents and psuedo-psychologists et al; the negligence by our government no taking our youths and educational institutions as sacred and the cornerstone of our society.

   We are all to quick to use words such as “brutalize, barbaric, advantage” etc. when describing our educators attempt to lead our youngsters on the right track. Those who oppose corporal punishment seem to be ready to adopt the North American way of education; where our children can “wear what they want, how they want, attend when they feel like it, leave class when they feel like it etc”.

   In North America, the students are put in charge of their education, and it’s because of the “freedom of choice” approach. However, In Trinidad and Tobago, we want the same, but we are bent on holding THE TEACHERS alone accountable for a students failure. We cannot have it both ways! We throw our teachers under the bus for our children when they get 5 lashes with a ruler in their hands, and still want to slam the teachers when our children run away from school and head for ‘blue basin or caura river.” Are we that ignorant?

   We all have choices to make, either we stand at the side of the teachers and allow them to do their best to educate our children, even if it includes 5 lashes with a ruler on the palm of the hand or we can fight for the right for our children to choose failure and hold the parents accountable, even when their child misses 4 out of 5 days in school and spend it at the river; eitherway, soeicty will continue to be ravaged by the crimes of the failed students and parents who backed them up.

   As for me, I would allow a teacher to administer corporal punishment within reason to allow my child to reflect on the “cause and effect” of the punishment and know the difference. With my guidence and help and the teachers hard work and caring for my child to breed success, it’s a small price to pay for a better society.

6. felix said:

   “Those who oppose corporal punishment seem to be ready to adopt the North American way of education; where our children can ‘wear what they want, how they want, attend when they feel like it, leave class when they feel like it etc’.”

   Now who suggested this; where is the evidence? Are you exaggerating just like some who oppose corporal punishment?

   felix said:

   “…we are bent on holding THE TEACHERS alone accountable for a students failure. We cannot have it both ways! We throw our teachers under the bus for our children when they get 5 lashes with a ruler in their hands, and still want to slam the teachers when our children run away from school and head for ‘blue basin or caura river.” Are we that ignorant?”

   This is another exaggeration, to put it mildly. In Trinidad, most people blame parents for the failures of children and not the teachers. Here, many parents support corporal punishment and defend teachers who do it.

   There are the infrequent incidences of parents, who object to the manner in which some teachers hit their children, actually going to the school to confront the teachers. Such incidences are few. I never heard of a violent confrontation between a teacher and a parent being over a teacher giving a child five lashes with a ruler in the palm of his/her hand. All the cases I am aware of involved welts on different parts of the body, which do not happen from a few strokes with a ruler in the palm of the hand.

   Anytime people reach the state of wanting anyone, including teachers, to beat their children, or even themselves resorting to beating their children, points to issues to be addressed first with the parents/guardians then possibly the children. It means the parents do not know a better way to change behaviour, and quite frankly, I do not buy that parents know best or that it is always about the child’s behaviour that needs to change. Most parents do not take the time to listen to children and then to work out issues with them.

   Often we have dysfunctional teachers, who come to school loaded with their personal problems and they take it out on children. Teachers are also prone to racism, colorism, size discrimination and other forms of prejudices and can punish children based on those prejudices or with those prejudices in mind.

   Many parents and teachers set bad examples but beat children and expect them to be different. There are too many dysfunctional people in the society for me to support beating children.

   Most often, beating a child is about the adult’s frustration with not knowing a way to get the behaviour they want (and the behaviour they want is not always in the best interest of the child). Beating children under the circumstances that I raised amounts to abuse.

   Many years ago, I noticed that my son (seven years old at the time) was lazing around to get ready for school. I enquired about the problem and after much hesitation he eventually told me that the day before his teacher flogged him for coming to school late. Usually, he had a driver to take him to school. I decided to personally take him to school that day so I could have spoken with the teacher.

   On reaching to school, I went to the teacher and told her that I do not want her or anyone flogging my son. If he is problematic then call me (I gave her three phone numbers to reach me) or if it is that bad, suspend or expel him. But under no condition would I tolerate beatings.

   She explained to me why she beat him. She said that he came to school late and she also did not want him to feel special because his father donates much to the school.

   I asked her if she was mad. I asked her if she was aware that he was seven years old and had a driver to drop him off and pick him up from school. She said yes. I then asked how was it his fault if the driver was late for whatever reason. I said, “That is madness and the rest of your explanation was also ridiculous. You do not want him to feel that he is special because his father donates much to the school?” So she was picking on him, not because of something he actually did that was under his control but because of some weird idea in her head that because I assisted the school with its many problems (I donated much to the school during the recession) that it was her responsibility to ensure that he did not feel special. She could not show an instance of him not doing his school work or being talkative in class etc. But for coming to school late ONCE because his driver was late, he was flogged. I immediately deduced that she had bigger issues to work out, so I simply told her to not let that happen again. I suspect that he got flogged again a year or so later by some other teacher, but he never spoke up. Maybe he felt I would actually do something ‘crazy’.

   The point I am making is that with all these dysfunctional teachers out there in a dysfunctional school environment, beating children should be the last thing on anyone’s mind. Of course, if parents want to allow teachers to beat their children (teachers are not allowed to beat children in Trinidad and Tobago anymore, although some still do) I am not agreeing with them and definitely not accepting that for any child under my direct care.

7. Hey sara,
   As far as I can see, you are depending on the teacher to take care of your child for you. Mind you, that pundit you are speaking about, is a very nice person. He has all right to descipline his students. However, I am sure you are exaggerating. I have a nephew attending the same said school. He thinks that this pundit is extremely loving and caring,not to mention funny. And mind you madam, my nephew is in the pundit’s class. If you say that the other male teacher hit their students without caring, I will understand, but this pundit, you are so off border. Wish you can get some help to assist in taking care of your children at home.

8. the old adage to bend or train the tree whilst it is young and tender seems sensible. At one time if one didnot get training st hope, the preist instilled at church and if it was missed there, at the school when a pencil was stolen a swift bit of corpral punishment drove home the point in a physical way. There are consequences for wrong actions. So respect for God, people and there property was learnt as values were enculcated. even God in heaven will punish one day. Adult supervision and student compliance to produce an all rounded person in the end with discipline should be the ideal and if teachers who train the young need permission to administer corpral punishment to drive the child in a responsible life path please give that tool to them, and donot wait until they are over 18 years of age nd law inforcement officals then have to brutalize individuals for disrespecting God, people or their property. Either by incarcerating, punishing or hanging individuals who was not taught the vital lesson in his/her formative part of life and such was left to develop by chance.

9. corpral punishment administered at the right time by teachers can be valuable if it is not over done. Society tend to use it as punishment to adulthood or at a later stage to the deligt of legislators and society at large crying out at lawlessness. Jail aint nice, shoot the bandit,hang them high is the outcry of society because of an endemic spate of lawlessness. The more sensible approach is to use corpral punishment in school and the home to instil moral and societal values in a theraputic manner in the formative years of a younger citizens life rather than at adulthood. If training to respect God, Teachers, Elders, other people and their property is not gained at hope school should the place to inculcate the value as behaviour is learnt, Dogs are trained. The carot and stick method has merit and even God says he will burn the evil ones in hell. there are consequences that follow actions and the young should be thaught this in school as well as in church if it is not done at home. If society fails to discipline the young when its mater the most they instead will spend million in law enforcement trying to arrest an out of control society money that could have been spent to develop the people, educate them and provide better amenities for societal enjoyment instead.

10. Some of these teachers are no better than the bandits that destory our lives. So untill we get rid off them,or find a way to punish them,they better not hit my child,or else i would hit them back.

11. ” Some of these teachers are no better than the bandits that destroy our lives. So until we get rid off them…..” I always find it amusing when people put forward the suggestion of getting rid of local leaders be they politicians, civil servants or some influential business entity.- as if that is the panacea of all our social and political maladies.
    Tell me wise folks. when you get rid of these local nationals that fail in your estimations to live up to expectations , and you obviously lack confidence in anything else local , then what are we left with outside to going to Mars , Scotland Yard Police Department, Ottawa , Brisbane ,Havana ,Lagos, Mumbai ,Islamabad , and Washington DC for new recruits?

12. Corporal punishment has always been used by many before us as a suitable form of teaching the younger ones to understand what is acceptable and what isn’t. We all know that many young children defy rules to understand the reason behind it. It is an unconscious thing. When babies touch something that they shouldnot and you gently tap there hands they would learn that, that was a bad thing to do. Many parents of this modern age do not teach children the value of obeying and respecting rules, using manners etc. There are methods used in disciplining children that donot have long term effects. Strangely appropriate licks use to send the message that the actions were unacceptable. There are the parents or teachers who would misuse the “cut tail” method because they got angry. As the adult we have to see that permanent positive changes in behaviour take place. I strongly feel that removing flogging in schools has lead to the upsurge in violence around the world. There are also societal and family factors. Those who speak highly against licks don’t understand why it was used. There is a pyschological effect when you know you will be punished for doing the wrong. The punishment must be feared by the performer or else the efects will not be attained. Fear breathes respect where wisdom is lacking. Not everything that hurts is bad or else women will not give birth to babies. That pain is much worst to many who have to endure it for the sake of bringing life into the world. When corporal punihment is used as a power tool then it is wrong, it should only be used where reason is unattainable and time is lacking.

13. Well, well,what do you know! I told you folks that there was hope yet for sweet T&T ,aka Rainbow Country, and here before our very eyes , cousin kame has provided us with ample proof, one week after Beyonce fleeced gullible Trini of their monies for another of the distracting , pointless foreign invasion ,musical butt shaking snoozers , we all seem to have a penchant for -three hundred and sixty days of the year ,even as the social fabrics of our noble society crumbles around us unabated.
    Kame wants to make corporal punishment into the law of the land , as a prerequisite for social responsibility for all citizens -from the cradle to the grave.
    What is even more refreshing is the fact that Kame,with the catchy ,’gender neutral’ name , is desirous that either his or her hard working MP makes this a priority to catch all trouble makers ,so as to curb the prevalence of the huge percentage of blue color criminals that seems to be the norm , along with the vastly increasing white color counterparts ,that daily preys on the poor , and weak in the board rooms of local big business like Clico,and HCU ,along with their foreign corporate enterprise bribe giving pals , in addition to the well oiled governmental folks that dominate political circles, at both the high and low ends.
    Sorry Uncle Basdeo Panday, that includes you too, our one time PM. I know that you thought that you had this thing covered ,after the wink , wink political jig and dance you were attempting to inveigle with your nepotistic drinking buddy Mr. Manning during the recent sit down sessions at his billion dollar residence.
    In this , he might be expected to support your quest to be the first T&T Executive President, and you in turn would ensure he wins another election, then you would support his Caribbean integration fiefdom shenanigans ,perhaps throw in a Caribbean Court of Appeal support/post Privy Council overtures, and finally he would do the right thing for you and perform the bone thrown coupdegras . This would include an offer of pardon to you for past corruption atrocities , and eventually make your young princess in waiting Mademoiselle M, the first female PM of our country.
    Sorry , but even the best laid plans, can fall flat, for here is the Siparia Queen Kamela with her fingers in the air testing the political winds to decide which way to swing her cutlass . Should she go for your juggler, or to leave you to drown his own hateful and revengeful bile.
    It’s licks for them , all and sundry ,from captain to crook, says kame.
    I like it, even though I still despise my ever loving Grandmother for using those broom sticks on my head , and back to keep me in line with the law, even as a young innocent kid.
    Oh what a tragedy!
    Thanks kame. I totally agree with your implied reasoning,”children should be seen , and not heard,” but adults could do what the hell they want , especially a selected few in the land of the confused and competing tribes.

14. Adult corporal punishment for sexual pleasure is called Sado Masochism, and is a dangerous form of sexual enslavement using all the methosdpologies of corporal punishment in schools.Maybe the continued purpose of this assinine advocacy is to develop a new type of tourism for people from the jaded European and North american countries, and so it remains part of the “curriculum”?

15. That’s why we cannot help but love the good lady Ms.L. She is not only quite knowledgeable on these intricate social matters , but is also compassionate where necessary. Here it is some of these blogosphere hate mongers were of the view that she despise Uncle Panday just like the majority of UNC voters indicated in their recent party elections,because she throws a little ‘50/50 slight’ his , and Pappy Manning’s way occasionally , and look how she is extending to him-what some would say is -an unwarranted , sympathetic bone.
    There it is Uncle Panday, unless the revered British Privy Council say otherwise , it’s 10 years hard labor jail for you for stealing from our people while in office , but you will get away from our the much deserved ,globally feared ,Bull Pestle aka Cat-O-9-Tail, where you will when convicted ,be also required to get 10 strokes , followed immediately , by salt water baths as well.
    Seeing that non democratic Fuji is a no go escape destination of choice,after their barrage of ethnically skewed coups ,can anyone say if Trinidad has any extradition treaty with a certain much adored, heavily populated, unmentionable, South Asian nuclear country?
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/842714.stm

    Well, there is always Scotland, but I the Provocateur in Chief, do digress with this my usual subtle social machinations ,for corporal punishment is good , and corporal punishment is bad and an example of sexually pleasurable sadomasochism.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hqh-kp4XvD0

    ‘I rather you than me, to try and stop these elite Trinis with too much time on their hands ,for their deep sense of humor, and occasional , ‘intellectually stimulating , yet convoluted logic, yes? Let the ‘cyber jousting charades,’ continue unabated, I say !

    http://www.readersdigest.ca/mag/2000/04/think_spank.html
    Where do you stand?

16. what drives a teacher[miss doon] to beat a first year girl child [ 6yrs] at ragoonanan rd goverment school enterprise trinidad [republicof trinidad & tobago ] this teacher has no love in her heart for these kids . she profess to be a christian ….. jesus says’ anyone hurt these little ones a millstone should be hang around their neck an be thrown into the sea ‘……. ther are more humain ways to discipline a child ……

17. teachers who likes to beat children should first read the rights of the child acticle 29 1 ….teachers abuse children……. but teachers dont like to be abuse…..who will defend our little kids from these teachers who beats them up….lets start to defend the rights of the children………..are you man or woman enough to do this…….

18. Do you think that if she was not a Christian , she would be less incline to be cruel Samuel. If not , then why is the teacher’s religion an issue? This same teacher lives in an environment where every day children are victims of incest from sadistic dads and uncaring neglectful moms that hides behind taboo cultural norms.
    They could also know of numerous kids that are murdered every day via poisons from jilted psychologically depraved husbands and boyfriends ,as a way to gain attention, and back at the objects of their desires- the women.
    When you get equally worked up about this as you do over corporal punishment , then we would know that you are serious about kids and their plight in T&T.

19. Neal, i do understand what u are saying…i was highlighting my little kid being beaten by this saditic witch who happen to be a christian ….she was not following her master teachings [jesus]…..yes i am always trying to defend theses little ones be it my kid or kids i do come in to contact with …yes curse be to those who hurt these little ones…Anna mantoodo who head was bashed in by her mother man ,,,my heart greaved … NEAL WHO CAN SAVE THESES LITTLE ONES FROM THE FATHER WHO THEY HAVE TRUSTED ,,,THIS FATHER MIXIED POISON IN A SOFT DRINK AN FEEDED THAT INNOCENT KID .as u said – desire for d woman – how can we educate foolish men an convince them not to kill theses BABIES.God help us ..

20. I see your point samuel , and I stand corrected . As to your very important question of how to save our little , innocent , and trusting ones from the social menace of abuses? It starts with first doing what you and I are doing presently, acknowledging that a problem exist all across our nation, and speaking about it publicly.
    It is not only fathers, or the poor lower class blokes that needs reeducation, and psychological help , but mothers as well , that choose to remain silent. Teachers in the schools needs to be aware , so as to respond . Doctors , and other health officials must intercede where appropriate. Our various religious institutions across the land , needs to also wake up and condemn the ghastly behaviors where such exist. Our legal and law enforcement bodies must persecute and punish to the full extent of the law. Politicians holds the vital key to trying to eliminate the problem. Not by simply running to pass more stupid and toothless legislation , each time something tragic garners our sometimes comatose media’s attention, but by trying to eliminate social neglect , poverty and other ills across the various constituencies ,that many of the victims are forced to endure.
    The cynic in us would recognize that most politicians tend to ignore children’s plights for one simple reason- kids do not vote. However the parents do, and so samuel, we must all be our brothers keepers ,love our neighbors like ourselves, and be that loud voice that gets the attention of the wider community , authorities , and the nation where feasible, if we see innocent ones being victimize , as oppose to slithering aways under some opaque culturally motivated taboo cloak in silence.
    One more important note samuel, I am in total agreement that the prevalent acts of corporal punishment must be eliminated as a practiced throughout out country, especially when administered by the state via sometimes racist , sadistic teachers , in our educational institutions.
    We the conscious must not however stop there , but should be prepared to acknowledge the diverse ways that abuse and exploitation of kids are taking place domestically , and globally.
    Yes indeed samuel, via child brides, child soldiers, sex slaves , political suicide bombers, fathers abandonment, overwhelmed mothers neglect , insensitive judges and divorce lawyers.The list goes on. I’ll leave you with a quote from a feminist author on the need for action .It is that ” the personal is political.” Those of us who were either victims , or observe callous , dehumanizing actions of this sort , must become mobilize beyond old talk . The results from failure ,and or delay is too terrible to even contemplate. Thanks for your refreshing perspective , and allowing me a chance to contribute a response.
    I wish you and your loving child well, my friend.
    Stay engaged , and ‘keep them honest.’

21. Neal, i salute you, as u have enlarged the global picture, of our little innocent ones in distress. my heart bleeds for them all. I am going to start a education drive in my area on corporal punishment – starting at the P T A meetings an in the area i live .with posters & leaflets…and i will like to print your most valued contribution on this topic ….If that is o,k with you ..I do salute u again in my fight for these innocent ones ,an i do welcome any advise on my endeavours thank you my friend.

22. Thanks again Samuel for your kind complimentary words. Feel free to utilize any of my contributions. Congrats are in order to you for making the first step towards a greater good. We are part of a larger global village , and any efforts made to redress the dehumanizing impact of child abuses, must be eventually beneficial to the entire human race. You can count on me to extend positive suggestions to you where necessary ,and needed.
    Warm regards.

23. neal , today i read of a father in new jersey U. S. of A — HOW HE RAPED CONSTANLY HIS FIVE DAUGHTERS , THREE OF WHOM HE MADE PREGANT—- he is a demon —- In africa these men set fire to little huts were kids were sleeping with their family ….as the fire rage the little innocent kids flee for their lives only to meet men in the dark armed with cutlass who chop an chop an chop an chopped these little ones till they were all dead ,,,,,,,more demons …….WHO WILL SAVE THEM ……as they cryed for mummy an daddy……
    no one came to save ,,,,,neal again thank u for openning my eyes to the global plight of kids…

24. Once more Samuel , you are correct. This evil that you are referring to, knows no geographical barrier ,race, ethnicity, culture, or class. To end it calls for broad base, multidimensional approaches on the part of all concerned. By reeducation, through frank discussions ,hopefully we can begin the task of poking at the sensitive caring heart strings of fellow civilize and conscionable beings. If we can make just one individual develop a bit of empathy to the plight of another human being starting with fragile, powerless , and dependent kids , the returns to the global community can be tremendous.
    Think Samuel of the possibilities for peace , security , development and economic prosperity , if we can halt the madness of evil before it blossoms . I am committed to this cause , and is glad that you are as well, so spread the word , stay engaged , and let’s organize in efforts to build bridges to the future- beyond useless white papers, multilateral symposiums, and toothless unenforceable legislations.
    PS. Remember however ,to give your daughter a hug whenever possible. Remind her of your love for not only her, but all other living beings , and the fact that you are on the verge of trying to make this world, and future better.
    Warm regards.

25. hey neal ,again i do value your much needed advice, on our cause for a lovly future for my kids, an those who i will reach by extention of a person who shares this same vision ,
    yes i will hug my daughter an let her know of my great love for her ,an all others……i will also include her as an actives with me instilling these ideology in her heart so it will bloom into a love for mankind .
    for a better world ….samuel

26. I have your back Samuel.I was never blessed with girls , but suspect that they present similar challenges. Stay strong, and remember the following :

    http://thinkexist.com/quotation/children_are_not_casual_guests_in_our_home-they/260636.html

27. neal, thanks for your great support . It is a real joy to have and be bless with girls.My 7yr old daughter sees me off to work each morning by picking me a white flower an giving me butterfly kisses all over my face since she was 3yrs…an so too the 1yr old has started the ritual….when i arrive home on evenings my two daughters r running to me with arms open, smiles on their faces, as though its the first time they are seeing me , an so im at that moment over taken by hugs an kisses an for sure i know their love is real as beautiful red roses in full bloom . i did visit that site found a lot of kids stuff…thanks ,,,

28. Sounds like you do have a good thing going there Samuel. Keep it up and continue to give the family hope. It sounds like you are equally blessed with the help of a fine ‘supportive other half,’as that is important as well, being that a house devoid of love / divided amongst itself , must fall ,and all such norm-like situations ,across most societies- if you catch my drift.
    Keep the faith.

29. yes neal,my other half see to it that the kids are nourished with food and lots of LOVE , this i do thank d almighty for….I have started to compile the laws that defend the rights of children and the process of educating ppl to stand up against injustice to kids ….the support i am receiving is great ……… it feels good to be able to defend ‘D’ INNOCENT ……I do catch ur drift key word ,you said it neal…..DIVIDED……thanks samuel

30. The symbolic “house divided,” was my deliberate attempt to invoke a certain broad base emotional appeal Samuel. I am happen you were able to latch on to it, and see it’s significance, for negligence on that score, has led to the downfall of many, not only in our society ,but across the wider global community.
    Keep your feet on the pedal , and continue to shine that bright light into the dark corners , and recesses of your society . In the process, you hopefully would educate ,and empower where necessary.
    I wish you well my friend.
    Neal.

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