By Dr. Kwame Nantambu
February 15, 2013
At the outset, it must be stated quite equivocally that the order for the global apology for the European enslavement of Afrikans is as follows: The Roman Catholic Pope of Rome, first; second, the governments of Spain and Portugal; in third place are the governments of Britain, France and the Netherlands; in fourth place is the government of the United States.
Indeed, since 8 January 1455, when Pope Nicholas V authorized the Portuguese “to subject to servitude all infidel peoples”, no Pope of the Roman Catholic Church has apologized for the European enslavement of Afrikan people.
In April 2006, the Church of England voted “to apologize to the descendants of victims of the slave trade” and in March 2007, considered paying reparations.
In late April 2006, Jamaica introduced a resolution in the United Nations General Assembly on behalf of the Caribbean and Afrika with co-sponsorship by most European nations “to acknowledge the legacy of slavery as being at the heart of situations of profound social and economic inequality, hatred, bigotry, racism and prejudice which continue to affect people of Afrikan descent today.”
On 25 March 2007, bicentenary of the Abolition of the Slave Trade, then Prime Minister Tony Blair of Britain publicly stated that slavery was “a crime against humanity” and offered “deep sorrow” for British involvement but no apology.
In May 2007, the current Pope of the Roman Catholic Church, Pope Benedict XV1 condemned “the genocide of the Jews” during the Jewish Holocaust when six to eight million Jews were killed by a European named Adolf Hitler in the 1930s. However, as of this writing, Pope Benedict XV1 has not condemned the genocide of the Afrikans during the Afrikan Holocaust when one hundred to one hundred and fifty million Afrikans were killed by disparate Europeans between 1517 and 1834.
In August 2007, the Mayor of London, Ken Livingstone, apologized for his city’s role in the Trans-Atlantic slave trade. He acknowledged that London was “tainted” by it.
On 29 July 2008, the U.S. House of Representatives issued “an unprecedented apology to Black Americans for the institution of slavery and the subsequent Jim Crow laws that for years discriminated against Blacks as second-class citizens in American society.”
And on 18 June 2009, the U.S. Senate passed a resolution apologizing for “slavery and segregation of Afrikan-Americans.”
In the case of reparations, one finds that the European slave traders have received reparations while their employees (slaves) have received no reparations, to date.
Indeed, in the 1825 “agreement”, the French government forced Haiti to pay France 90 million francs or US$21.7b in exchange for “liberty”. This was, in fact, reparations/compensation “payable to mainly French planters who had lost their property in the revolution” (slave revolt) of 1st January 1804.
And when the British government abolished slavery on 1st August 1834, the Abolition Act provided “a free gift” – not a loan – of 20 million pounds or US$91.2m “to compensate the slave-owners for the loss of their slaves.”
Truth Be Told: The total amount of compensation/reparations, that is, unpaid wages, that are owed to Afrikans who worked on European plantations in this slavery/capitalist business have been estimated to be US$770 trillion plus interest.
During this European slavery/capitalist business, Nigeria supplied twenty-four percent of the workers (slaves), Angola supplied twenty-four percent, Ghana sixteen percent, Senegal/Gambia thirteen percent, Guinea eleven percent and Sierra Leone six percent. Ergo, the people of these countries (not the government) deserve their percentage of the US$770 trillion.
In addition, forty percent of the workers (slaves) who were brought violently and involuntarily from Afrika went to the plantations in the Caribbean, forty percent worked on plantations in South America, mainly Brazil, while fifteen percent worked on plantations in the American North and South. Ergo, the descendants of these workers (slaves) also deserve their percentage share of the US$770 trillion.
However, the sad geo-political reality is that as a result of the successful European global policy of Divide and Rule, the descendants of these unpaid Afrikan workers (slaves) will never receive compensation/reparations because there are neo-colonial governments in Afrika and the Caribbean who are against the payment of reparations.
Shem Hotep (“I go in peace”).
Dr. Kwame Nantambu is a part-time lecturer at Cipriani College of Labour and Co-operative Studies.
Greetings Dr Nantambu
This topic should be address by every Caribbean country. No nation in the entire world have suffered the same faith. History have shown that slave masters were compensated for their slaves, the Jews were also compensated for the holocaust, it is time that we address the issue of compensation for the Africans.
Hotep
Jan
Many years ago, when an undergraduate at UWI, Mona, I used to browse old issues of Punch Magazine (in the Mona Library), that caricaturist’s wonderland. There was one picture that I remember. it showed a black slave, with broken chains on his feet, being led away by an abolitionist. In the foreground, half facing the front, was the planter, in hand, wearing boots, hat on head, hands spread in outrage. Of course, he was holding a whip, the lash spreading luxuriantly in the foreground. It was captioned, “Am I Not A Man And A Brother Too?” Since Punch began in 1841 and Emancipation was in 1838, it is possible that my identification of the source is incorrect.
Things have changed little since that cartoon. As I recall, the planters got compensation, the slaves got nothing. Reparations will come, but not in our lifetime: racism, at all levels, is now a world wide scourge.
Thank you for your article, Dr. Namtambu. It is like seed planted: one day it will grow.
Excellent article Dr KN ,and if I might say ,quite poignant analysis ,of a much ignored issue-this dehumanizing system call slavery,than would remain a blemish , on the conscience ,of barbarian Europeans Christians-and least we forget- like minded,Arabs Islamist.
Every child of Afrikan descent , must be made to know that without the blood , sweat , and tears ,of their hard working, long suffering/ resilient ancestors ,many of those Global powerhouses , most folks brag about today, would not have evolved- be it in North America, South America, or across peaceful Europe.
Likewise ,kids of priemier triumphalist nation , in Europeans, followed by many of their self hating , ‘white wannabe ,mimicking tribes,’should show some respect, and gratitude ,for the numerous previliged ,they were able to enjoy today,since without Afrikan, overwhelming sacrifices , they might not have obtained them.
As you so clearly indicated , there have been a few paltry efforts aimed at some semblance of apologies, but great reticence ,in addressing the more important issue of long overdue ,reparations.
It is time to up the ante, with proper display of organizational solidarity, and appropiate alliances ,by social / political activist , in collaboration with cross racial humanist progressives , as we seek to do what’s right ,which respect to this historical wrong.
We in the Caribbean region , and T&T in particular, should
not think we are unable to get the ball rolling , and so make a difference , as far as this is concern, yes?
Ain’t it true , that we just elected a President , who had to turn down an appointment as a judge , to serve on an international Judicial body-de la ICC-that , was created , due to the wonderful initiatives ,of a great -great -grand son , of a slave , in ,former President/ PM,Mr ANR Robinson?
http://www.newsday.co.tt/news/0,140608.html
‘Me think,’it was Antropologist Margreat Meade, who once said, “Never underestimate the power of a few committed people to change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has.”
Whether it’s the USA, and Lincoln’s ’40 Acres ,& a Mule ,’promise for Afrikan Americans,Scattered Afrikans ,across the English / French/ Dutch speaking Caribbean , and certainly ,’ignored, racial haven, Latin America,’or the mammoth task of finally elevating , by first compensating ,the Afrikan Continent,for it’s lost ,and rape ,of it’s sons , and daughters ,shackled into slavery,the time is now ,to hold economic, religious, political , and civic leaders – particularly in non profit/ civil society, accountable /hands to the fire.
Fine response Ann Clark,to your point ,as to whether reparation would come in this lifetime.I say yes,but let’s but Afrikans, have to become proactive on this score, as opposed to standing idly by , while hoping that action will be inititiated, in their interest , due to some guilt ,by Modern European,beneficiaries of the Euro , and Arab, barbarian slavery .
Luv humanity , all!
This analysis is profoundly mistaken … not with regard to any of the historical facts put forward, but with regard to the racial/geographical categories that form the basis of analysis.
To understand the slave trade, it will not do simply to pit black against white, or to pit European against “Afrikan”. Those categories are misleading, and ultimately wrong.
The simple fact of the matter is that the slave trade was prophesied, and the victims of it were the sons of the biblical patriarch, Jacob, aka the true Israelites of the Bible.
The main perpetrators were near-relations of the Israelites, namely sons of Esau (Edomite “Jews”, notably, such as Aaron Lopez), and sons of Ishmael (Arabs, basically). The matter is complicated. But for sure, it is predicated on seedline, not on landmass, and not on skin color. The Book of Yahweh lets us know that white skin is merely a depigmented condition it calls leprosy. Hence there are today white Israelites and black Israelites, white Edomites and black Edomites, etc. Just as surely as there were white Edomites, such as Aaron Lopez, involved in the slave trade, there were also black Edomites involved, moreover “Afrikan”, e.g. Idoma people of Nigeria, and Akan people of Ghana. (The latter have formally apologized for their role in the slave trade and have offered reparations in the form of land grants in the Fihankra area of Ghana). And just as surely as there were red or white Arabs involved, there were also black Arabs involved, in Zanzibar, Sudan, Mauritania and other places. There were also black Hamites involved.
“Afrika” is a land of many tribes, specifically including not only sons of Ham such as the “Egyptians” (ancient kHAMit) and “Ethiopians” (ancient Kush), but also black-skinned, woolly-haired Hebrews — Hebrew Israelites, Hebrew Ishmaelites, and Hebrew Edomites, scattered all over Africa, in keeping with prophecy.
Will reparations be paid? The simple answer to that is yes. Prophecy is clear on the matter:
‘And he said unto Abram, Know of a surety that thy seed shall be a stranger in a land that is not theirs, and shall serve them; and they shall afflict them four hundred years; 14 And also that nation, whom they shall serve, will I judge: and afterward shall they come out with great substance” (Genesis 15:13-14).
The “great substance” here spoken of is a reference to reparations. The idea of “$770 trillion” is a nonsense, moreover irrelevant. But for sure the amount owed is large.
But by far the greater amount owed will be paid, not in treasure, but in kind. That too is prophesied:
“He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity” (Revelation 13:10). Some call this the law of “karma” … although a concept wrongly taught and understood, there is nevertheless some truth to it.
Also: “Thus saith thy Lord [Yahweh], and thy God that pleadeth the cause of his people, Behold, I have taken out of thine hand the cup of trembling, even the dregs of the cup of my fury; thou shalt no more drink it again: 23 But I will put it into the hand of them that afflict thee; which have said to thy soul, Bow down, that we may go over: and thou hast laid thy body as the ground, and as the street, to them that went over” (Isaiah 51:22-23).
This clearly promises, first, that there would come a time when our suffering would end (Cf. Genesis 15:13 earlier), and second, that payback will be in kind. There are many other scriptures that imply the same.
Of course there will be those who reflexively dismiss the Book of Yahweh. That will be a grave mistake, for everything prophesied within it has either come to pass, or the time for it is not yet.
Moreover, the histories, the law, and the prophecies of which it speaks are precisely “Our Story” — the story of the “Negro” scattered to the West (and elsewhere).
The Africentrist analysis of our condition is woefully short of the mark.
Shalom.
This is a very insightful analysis and should serve as a sobering reminder to the Africans in the Diaspora of our traumatic past. And for those folks that say “well get over it, it was a long time ago,” I counter, “what about the French Gov’t, it certainly has not ‘gotten over it'” as Dr. Nantambu pointed out in his article.
With that said, I do not think that reparations are what the Diaspora needs right now. What is more important is community building, development, and overall economic empowerment. Many need to rediscover the power of family, for, as my Jewish rabi-kohan affirms, “Family is the Center of All Living.”
The resurgence of the Black Family is the key to the redemption of the disparate African peoples in the Western Hemisphere and their return to their former glories.
The suffering will end when African leaders stop moving vast amount of money to the countries which is known to be the colonial masters.
The East Indian man especially get rid of vast corruption, caste, and emancipated lower grade of people.
When Trinidad politicians move vast amount of money wher did it go. Did it go masa country, the same masa we tried to get rid of by saying “Masa day Done”.
When would we teach children how to use money, like the African, East Indian, and European parents who are fully aware of the main source of poverty.
Do we have a middle and upper class African, East Indian in Trinidad.
When would we learn a simple solution as follows:
The Carpenter, Plumber, Builder is a s important as the Doctor, Lawyer, Barrister.
When would we learn how to manufacture not only consume.
When would we learn to stop thinking about how important is the singer or politician but how could we gain some international recognition like the Chinese.
To the Europeans the Chinese is just a commodity to be used and abused – like building railways.
Forget the academics and get down to practicalities we have to much BSC BA MA LLB, however foreign contractors have to build our infrastructure.
Where is all the Trini BSA MA in construction engingeers. WE need more builders in Africa.
Bill Cosby—-I’ve worked hard since I was 17. Except for when I was doing my National Service, I put in 50-hour weeks, and didn’t call in sick in nearly 40 years. I made a reasonable salary, but I didn’t inherit my job or my income, and I worked to get where I am. Given the economy, it looks as though retirement was a bad idea, and I’m tired. Very tired.
I’m tired of being told that I have to “spread the wealth” to people who don’t have my work ethic. I’m tired of being told the government will take the money I earned, by force if necessary, and give it to people too lazy to earn it.
I’m tired of being told that Islam is a “Religion of Peace,” when every day I can read dozens of stories of Muslim men killing their sisters, wives and daughters for their family “honor”; of Muslims rioting over some slight offense; Muslims murdering Christian and Jews because they aren’t “believers”; Muslims burning schools for girls; Muslims stoning teenage rape victims to death for “adultery”; Muslims mutilating the genitals of little girls; all in the name of Allah, because the Qur’an and Shari’a law tells them to.
I’m tired of being told that out of “tolerance for other cultures” we must let Saudi Arabia and other Arab countries use our oil money to fund mosques and Madrasa Islamic schools to preach hate in Australia , New Zealand , UK, America and Canada , while no one from these countries are allowed to fund a church, synagogue or religious school in Saudi Arabia or any other Arab country to teach love and tolerance..
I’m tired of being told I must lower my living standard to fight global warming, which no one is allowed to debate.
I’m tired of being told that drug addicts have a disease, and I must help support and treat them, and pay for the damage they do. Did a giant germ rush out of a dark alley, grab them, and stuff white powder up their noses or stick a needle in their arm while they tried to fight it off?
I’m tired of hearing wealthy athletes, entertainers and politicians of all parties talking about innocent mistakes, stupid mistakes or youthful mistakes, when we all know they think their only mistake was getting caught. I’m tired of people with a sense of entitlement, rich or poor.
I’m really tired of people who don’t take responsibility for their lives and actions. I’m tired of hearing them blame the government, or discrimination or big-whatever for their problems.
I’m also tired and fed up with seeing young men and women in their teens and early 20’s be-deck themselves in tattoos and face studs, thereby making themselves unemployable and claiming money from the Government.
Yes, I’m damn tired. But I’m also glad to be 83.. Because, mostly, I’m not going to have to see the world these people are making. I’m just sorry for my granddaughter and their children. Thank God I’m on the way out and not on the way in. There is no way this will be widely publicized, unless each of us sends it on! This is your chance to make a difference.
“I’m 83 and I’m tired. If you don’t agree you are part of the problem!
Yeah Mamboo, we know fully well, why most white ,disengenious , not too closeted- racist, neo Conservative , socially immoral bums, would adore that fraud called Bill Crosby- even if he used his celebrity status , to bolster his blatant refusal , to support his illegitimate kid-but why you too ,somehow think he is a god, since every success he ,and other Afrikans, ever achieved -be it Condi Rice , to Clarence Thomas , and Colin Powell- same was done, solely, on their own initiatives.
http://www.people.com/people/archive/article/0,,20122759,00.html
We also know why you would conveniently think the same of Uncle Jack , aka ‘de PP braying Donkey,’and spokesperson for everything revolting ,condesending , and crass, eith respect to desperate folks ,of his own race. Kinds of remind of another self hating, local clown , running around toay , masquerading, as some objective journalist, in Uncle Job,Si? When he was still useful to Papa Basdeo , then head of triumphalist nation, every Afro Trini woman , and kinky head kid , was seen as de devil, ain’t it , mi amigo?
Let me guess , these creatures serve a useful purpose , in furthering ‘you alls’interest , especially if the self serving clowns , often would dare to say what you cowards , are reticent ,in publicly proclaiming.
Am I right , or am I right Mamboo?
I want you and similAr others , mi amigo ,to continue to dismiss the claims,for Afrikan folks to get what is surely theirs, but when the ugly fallout inevitably occurs,then run into hill , and depict them as dehumanizing savages.
It is a win / win strategy , especially in T&T, where members of your tribe , should do everything feasible , to get what they can from the state , while simultaneously seeking every imaginary ills meted out , rectified , especially ,once a leader that looks like ‘you alls, ‘ holds any significant political power.
Again Mamboo, am I right , or am I right?
The “Quashie is lazy” analysis of our condition, whether put forward by Bill Cosby or such as F. E. M. Hosein (see below), also is woefully short of the mark.
As a slave, Quashie worked his whole life — however brutishly short it might have been as a slave — from foday morning to kyah-see evening. It profited him nothing; that is what gives life to any discussion of reparations.
Massa by contrast did not have to lift a finger, not even to shake off after a pee. And the idea that Bill Cosby worked “hard” writing jokes and acting in silly sitcoms and movies, itself is laughable.
Those who laugh all the way to the bank after a successful scam will often extol their own virtue in terms of “hard work”, or “working smart”, or the just reward of “beating book” (instead of pan; alluding here to a saying of Sat Maharaj), or “hard study”, or other such nonsense.
The fact of the matter remains that the suffering of the “Negro” was prophesied, and brought upon himself for disobedience of the Law of the Holy Covenant to which … like it or not, know it or not … we are bound.
“You only have I known of all the families of the earth: therefore I (Yahweh) will punish you for all your iniquities” (Amos 3:2).
This explains, by the way, why we sons of Jacob can seemingly get away with nothing. Others may rob, steal, and murder, and (for the time being) get away with it, as evidenced for example by the big-fish drug barons who own and control money, mansions and guns. The little-fish drug dealers by contrast are the ones who quickly end up dead or in prison:
“But this is a people robbed and spoiled; they are all of them snared in holes, and they are hid in prison houses: they are for a prey, and none delivereth; for a spoil, and none saith, Restore” (Isaiah 42:22).
Meantime, “none saith Restore”. Rather than talk of reparations, there is talk of the lazy “Negro”., or “Quashie is lazy”. This is exemplified by the following quote drawn from last Sunday’s Express column written by Selwyn Ryan:
This view of F. E. M. Hosein would indeed be vindicated, and has come to pass, but only because it is what Yahweh had ordained:
“The stranger (e.g. East Indian in T&T) that is within thee shall get up above thee very high; and thou shalt come down very low” (Deuteronomy 28:43).
But what F. E. M. Hosein, and such as Mamoo, and even such sons of Jacob as Bill Cosby and sundry Africentrists, do not understand is that the “end-game” has also been written. The Book of Yahweh is a full and complete explanation of the “astonishment” that is the “Negro”. Every other explanation is at best partially true, and therefore a whole lie because not the whole truth.
In the end, reparations shall be paid, in both treasure and, more painfully, in kind. I cited Isaiah 51:22-23 in my earlier posting. Now consider also:
“And the people shall take them, and bring them to their place: and the house of Israel shall possess them in the land of Yahweh for servants and handmaids: and they shall take them captives, whose captives they were; and they shall rule over their oppressors” (Isaiah 14:2).
Also: “And Yahweh thy God will put all these curses upon thine enemies, and on them that hate thee, which persecuted thee” (Deuteronomy 30:7).
The matter could not be more plain. I commend the Book of Yahweh to all sons of Jacob (i.e. “Negroes”) who are for the moment ensnared in this or that ultimately false view of our condition, whether of the Africentrist, Cosby-ist or any other sort. (Neal’s Buddhism or humanism also will be unavailing, not to mention the distressing tendency to eat-ah-food-ism of so many of our public intellectuals … but Yahweh promises redemption for those who “grow a pair”, so all is not lost for those who succumbed to Satan’s temptation).
I also commend it to all the Indo triumphalists like F. E. M. Hosein, and his intellectual heirs such as Mamoo on this board, that get too comfortably smug in their sense of superiority. They should know that “… my redeemer liveth, and that he shall stand at the latter day upon the earth” (Job 19:25). That time is now close at hand.
Shalom.
“The African was not as productive as the East Indians: and if circumstances did not compel him to leave the colony, he would naturally die out. Such a thing had taken place in Mauritius. And Trinidad would be maintained and owned by the Indian in the field, the office and the shop.”
Yoruba there is an element of truth in that statement. The African proved to be weak and unfit for the sugar and rice fields. Indians were naturally suited for hard work in the blazing hot sun. Until the 1980s Indians were working on the sugar and rice plantations left over 150 years ago by Africans who choose the easy life. For 150 plus years in the Caribbean Indians toiled in the blazing hot sun. You must respect that…
@ Mamoo, your reply lacks a true understanding of history. I am interested to know, where from did you acquire this bogus information? Please cite your sources.
http://www.unhcr.org/refworld/country,,MARP,,LKA,,469f3ad4c,0.html
Seeing that you have turned into our online ,Social science expert Mamboo-rivaling dat Social Psycologist , /Insependent Senator , turned fat cat, political player ,in Uncle Ramesh Deosaran-then tell us ,what went wrong ,in my Buddhist Shenalese brethren’s homeland of Sri Lnka, where your Hindustani cousins ,were brought in by Massa England ,to work dem Tea, and Rubber plantations?
We know how dat experiment worked out, as the world was given suicide bombings,from COlumbo to de Gaza, and counting ,over two decades of civil wars, in addition to a brutal assassination ,of -to them – a meddling ,’India’s Hegemonic wannabe , head guru,Rajiv Ghandhi,’ Si?
In case you forgot, your liberator in chief , Papa Basdeo Panday, by a stroke of luck , was born in T&T , and not Fiji.
Many smarter than yours truly, think that Afrikan folks,are very tolerant of disgusting attitudes, and ,or behaviors , by fellow nationals,of differing tribal makeup ,but let’s just say our Fijian cousins ,are not , and worst yet , don’t care much about world opinions , when they decide to act , and say – no mas , to what they perceive as , Europeanized , unpatriotic interlopers, who treat native peoples-they think their inferiors -with contempt.
http://articles.cnn.com/2009-09-01/world/fiji.commonwealth_1_fiji-commodore-frank-bainimarama-commonwealth-secretary-general?_s=PM:WORLD
For de record , Afrikan folks , might not be natives to Trinidad , but it was their hard work ,via a resilient spirit , that kept this region together for centuries, and help lay the foundations for building Europe , and the Americas ,to what they are today.
All the good Doctor, and other lucid minded folks, are saying , it’s time to compensate them, not worry if another pedophile adoring Catholic Cardinal , will succeed the Nazi sympathizing German , as Pope.The Church has look on it’s hands too.
Had it not being for their defiance , and resistance to European tyranny, starting with burning down plantations , to Tubal Uriah Buzz Butler,Resistance , then your much adored Euro Massa, would still be in charge of T&T, ennnt?
Tell me Mamboo,is it a coincident , that White Massa , via the Privy council ,is still allowed to interpret the laws of an independent Republic like ours in 2013, while our regional Appeals courts languish ,under de UNC dominant PP regime?
Is any one surprise , that the first act , that was initiated by ‘Her Majestick Queen K,’after her swearing into office ,as PM ,with de Bagwas Gita , was to bring in a clueless , suspect – security expert ,European Canadian , to run our Police Service , then upon recognizing , he was no match for our sophisticated, local criminals, or rather , he could not be manipulated ,as thought initially, kicked him out , after paying him, more than the previous 100 Commissioners , all put together? Go figure!
To your point , I say , to hell with sugar , and rice paddys, mi amigo- as no one cares , about your juvinile debate, and erroneous conclusions , on who could plant better onions,or dasheen,than who , since most of us with a brain knows ,that there is a mark difference , in productity , by psycologically trumatized ,slave workers , who were treated like animals,versus those desperate ,lower caste ,indentured folks, like your ancestors , who came here of their own free will , and were well compensated by white Massa, for their efforts.
We applaud the fact that your people was able to use religion ,to make them accept their fate ,as docile , willing subjects , and so ,work hard , since this was predestined , but make no bones about it , mi amigo,not one single South Asian , or even East Asian , that came to our wonderful country , and surrounding regions , could have lasted one month ,as a slave , as administered , by dem white , diabolical , European savages.
Of dis you cannot disagree- that is if you are still in possession of your mental faculties.(which most of us across Trinicenter nation ,are begining to suspect not.)
Just kidding- maybe!
Luv Humanity People! Develop some empathy for de other,and leave this ugly me , me , selfish , dog with ah bone mentality , as displayed by de Mamboos of the world , where it belong’s in de Dublin of history. Look what happened to Fiji, Uganda, South Afrika, and Sri LAnka , where this was played out , hummmm, Mamboo?
Be forewarned, for while you were daily ,running around the various rumshops of Mayaro , drinking your self into a stupor , then followed this up by repeatedly ,listening , to de devisive rants, of Uncle Sat Mharaj, I was living , and working in de belly of the beast , and so can give you a first hand account ,as to whAt we do not wish our wonderful ,multi ethnic democracy , evolve into. Trust me on this , mi amigo.
“In addition, forty percent of the workers (slaves) who were brought violently and involuntarily from Afrika went to the plantations in the Caribbean, forty percent worked on plantations in South America, mainly Brazil, while fifteen percent worked on plantations in the American North and South. Ergo, the descendants of these workers (slaves) also deserve their percentage share of the US$770 trillion.” Dr. Kwame.
Realistically, the American economy the world largest is less than $14 trillion today. The world economy is under $100 trillion. So where is this $770 trillion repatriation money going to come from? Perhaps the good doctor could explain since the American economy only hit a trillion dollars long after slavery and only after the industrial revolution. Much of American wealth was generated after the industrial revolution and not from slavery. American industrial revolution saw the mass production of cars coming off the assembly line, the growth of various industries. The mass production of food using industrial equipment.
Britan is seriously in debt today, the $300 million plus sent to India yearly as repatriation money will be stopped next year or the following year. The British economy ( since they were the primary slave trade nation) has been in decline for sometime. They do not have any repatriation money… The American economy is in decline with money being sent to Egypt and other Islamic nation such as Pakistan and Afghanistan. No one in the US senate or the Barrack Obama administration is even thinking of sending da money to Africa because it always goes into some corrupt dictator hand…maybe Kwame could appeal to Barrack
Twaddle. It is not for nothing that the Book of Yahweh lets us know that Jacob wrestled all night with an angel, and prevailed. The sons of Jacob are nothing if not a strong people, well exemplified by our athletic prowess. In any case, the ports and plantations and oil-fields in these parts were all established by “Negro” labour.
You may have a chance to prove that; see Isaiah 14:2, 51:23, Deuteronomy 30:7.
Don’t flatter yourself. We are sons of Jacob, Israelites of the book. We have suffered captivity, ordained at the hand of God; it has been far from easy: “They (the sons of Jacob) have moved me (Yahweh) to jealousy with that which is not God; they have provoked me to anger with their vanities: and I will move them to jealousy with those which are not a people; I will provoke them to anger with a foolish nation” (Deuteronomy 32:21).
Not really. I do not take any sort of ideological position. Nor do I take any sort of sentimental position. I care only for what IS. And what IS, is reliably described in the Book of Yahweh. The East Indian in these parts has risen high above the sons of Jacob. That is a fact. It is not due to any superior gift of the East Indian, rather it is fulfillment of prophecy. Our suffering is at the hand of the Most High God, Yahweh, to whom we are bound by Covenant as His Chosen People. We were disobedient, and have suffered the consequences. The East Indian sent to these parts is the unlikeliest of conquerors, a “foolish nation” according to Scripture, and his conquest will be short-lived. That is not what I say, that is what the Most High says:
“Thus saith thy Lord Yahweh, and thy God that pleadeth the cause of his people, Behold, I have taken out of thine hand the cup of trembling, even the dregs of the cup of my fury; thou shalt no more drink it again: 23 But I will put it into the hand of them that afflict thee; which have said to thy soul, Bow down, that we may go over: and thou hast laid thy body as the ground, and as the street, to them that went over” (Isaiah 51:22-23).
It cannot be credibly denied that the sons of Jacob in these parts extended the hand of friendship to the stranger. From the beginning, as exemplified by such as F. E. M. Hosein, and even more virulently today by Hindutva ideologues such as Sat Maharaj … who hold say and sway over the East Indian government now “in power” … that hand of friendship has been spurned.
In any case, it seems factually true to me that the prophecy of Isaiah 51:23 fits: “Bow down, that we may go over: and thou (the “Negro”) hast laid thy body as the ground, and as the street, to them (the East Indian) that went over”. In this way, the prophecy of Deuteronomy 28:43 (“the stranger that is within thee shall get up above thee very high”) also has been fulfilled.
I fear it is now too late, but the East Indian, had he accepted the hand of friendship, would have stood to be blessed accordingly:
“And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed” (Genesis 12:3).
Be all that as it may, my concern on this blog is not to take up the case of the East Indian, either to prosecute or in defence.
Rather my concern is to correct my brethren, fellow sons of Jacob, who are for the moment misguided by false ideologies that fail, ultimately, to explain our condition as a people. Africentrism is the chief culprit to be addressed in this blog, but since you have introduced it, I must also correct Cosby-ism, a variant of “lazy Quashie”-ism.
Shouldn’t it be clear that our distress is due to the hand of God, Indo triumphalism (and sense of superiority) notwithstanding? The latter too was prophesied: “And thou, Asia, that art partaker of the hope of Babylon, and art the glory of her person…” (2 Esdras 15:46).
Asia’s fate, accordingly, will be that of modern-day Babylon, with whom they, and the Indo in these parts, have cast their lot.
Our Africentrist brethren should perhaps consider that when they decide on the alliances they enter into. Scripture is clear, and succinct, on the matter: “Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues” (Revelation 18:4).
Shalom.
Yoruba what I have stated is historical facts. You have taken Scripture out of context and to whom it is written and made application that are erroneous. This is how cults are born, making the Bible say what it was not meant to say. Therefore by extension making God a liar. That is the catalyst for divine judgement on false prophecy.
There is no mention of the Yorubas in the Bible so Yoruba Israel is an oxymoron. Solomon in relationship with the Queen of Sheba had children later to be known as the “Falashaners”. This was proven by the Jewish Rabbi through DNA. Through operation Solomon many of those tribes folks were given a one way ticket back to Israel. This is historical fact. Out of the 10 tribes of Israel some were found in India. Cochin Jews in India returned to Israel. Unlike Muslims, Hindus have a great deal of respect for the Jewish people and from the reign of Ashoka they were given special protection. There were other tribes in India that had Jewish DNA unfortunately due to their large numbers and the time it would take to verify through DNA this project was dropped.
The Yorubas a nomadic tribe living in West Africa did not have a DNA connection with the Jews. Historically the Jews went to Alexandria, Egypt and established a colony there. That colony of diasporic Jews gave birth to the Septuagint ( the Greek version of the Torah). Many of the Jews travelled East, some of them lived in Persia (Iran) during the time of Ester. It was never in Jewish tradition to intermarry so I am curious as to how Yoruba Israel came about….please edify me.
Interpretations of scripture can be interesting but it is very easy to get sucked in and lose some vision. The Indo- triumphalism/Afric-centralism talk is what spurns un-necessary dissension. “Our Africentrist brethren should perhaps consider that when they decide on the alliances they enter into.” Obama did the opposite. I noticed Yoruba Israelite that you used the term ‘negro’ liberally, take a look at this clip from Runoko Rashidi: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=IgcXP3sBu3Q&NR=1 The time to appreciate the contributions of others need to be enjoyed now in order for us to grow and develop as a nation.
“And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free” (John 8:32).
To know the truth, it must first be laid bare, not covered up. Yes the truth will offend, but only the guilty, or those in the grip of some hypnotic delusion. In either case, better bitter truth than sweet lies and cover-up.
“Which say to the seers, See not; and to the prophets, Prophesy not unto us right things, speak unto us smooth things, prophesy deceits…” (Isaiah 30:10).
That clip from Runoko Rashidi is over two hours long. Which part of it do you wish me to address?
I am familiar with the general tenor of Rashidi’s works, and I disagree fundamentally, because he is wrong about the identity question. Africa is full of black people, and they most assuredly are not all the same as to seedline, merely because they’re all the same skin color. Until he schools himself on that point, his work will be infected with error, and will mislead his “Negro” brethren.
I use the term “Negro” advisedly. In the first place, not all “Negroes” are literally “black”. And in the second place, not all “blacks” are “Negro”.
Consider this definition taken from the Zondervan Bible Dictionary: “Ham, the youngest son of Noah, born probably about 96 years before the Flood and one of eight persons to live through the flood. He became the progenitor of the dark races-not the Negroes, but the Egyptians, Ethiopians, Libyans and Canaanites.”
This definition is biblically correct, and rightly puts separation between the sons of Ham, and the “Negro”. The “Negroes” are descended from Shem, and more specifically are Hebrew Israelites, or sons of Jacob.
I didn’t coin the term; it was already in use when I was born. I put it in quotation marks because it is a byword by which the sons of Jacob are known; see Deuteronomy 28:37 which prophesied that we would be “an astonishment, a proverb and a byword”.
It is perhaps the least distorted in its denotation. We are Israelites, or sons of Jacob. That is the proper description of our identity. But in light of the fake-Jew impostor’s attempted expropriation of our identity, it seems best to use the term “Negro” lest there be any confusion. That the attempted expropriation will fail has been prophesied:
“No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of Yahweh, and their righteousness is of me, saith Yahweh” (Isaiah 54:17).
Let the wise consider the matter.
Btw, I don’t think the Dalits of India are “Negro”. I expect though that they are “Indus-Kush”, i.e. sons of Ham, specifically of the seed of Kush, spread to the Indian sub-continent.
It is from Kush that Ram and Shiva (Raamah and Sheba) descend; see Genesis 10:7.
Rashidi is simply wrong if he thinks that every black person, anywhere in the world, is “Negro”.
The “Aryans” who brought the caste system into the Indian sub-continent have a different origin altogether, which however is murky and I won’t get into.
Shalom.
Ahh boy, the ghosts of the diabolical British colonials are laughing with maniacal glee. The psychological fallout from the slave trade and indentureship is plain and clear for all to see; this blog may be a tiny sample, but based on my study of the broader discourse on the issue of reparations and race relations, it is representative of a broader reality.
I know I pulled no punches in my criticism of the present condition of the Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade descendant, but I will not be so intellectually myopic and downright foolish to insult the memories of my slave ancestors.
So, please let the record show, that any argument diminishing the efforts of African slaves to build the societies their descendants now live in for no remuneration whatsoever is completely invalid and without any logical basis. I will not equivocate on that point. I will also add that in my father’s time, it was mostly the Trinidadians of African descent who were at the vanguard of educational and professional achievement. To the credit of the East Indian descendants, they plodded and toiled and have reaped the rewards of their efforts, while the African-Trinbagonian has gone backward, due to the pernicious influence of American commercialism and the negative aspects of hip hop and dancehall culture. Lest people think I have forgotten, I have also attributed the African-Trinbagonian decline to a larger problem: a lack of knowledge of their true history. This is where many non-Africans have feigned ignorance.
Okay, enough of that rebuttal and now back to the work of rebuilding the dignity of the Diaspora African, who is very much a part of me. There is a lot to do and the situation is dire, but not terminal. There have been many dark days, but there is light at the end of the tower.
Now that I have addressed this fallacy of African laziness, back to the main topics at hand: apology for slavery and reparations. Dr. Nantambu cited the apologies for slavery from some of the perpetrators of this unconscionable crime.That is commendable. However, for me, these apologies mean little or nothing to me, unless there are efforts from African Diaspora communities to stop the sociological rot and regain their emotional stability. Black men need to be leaders again. They have it within them; they simply need to avoid the self-destructive attitudes and patterns of thinking and remember the wisdom and intelligence of their ancestors; wisdom and intelligence that founded empires such as Zimbabwe, Songhay, Ghana, Nubia, etc.
Bene Israel of India
As noted in Wikipedia ..
The Bene Israel (Hebrew: “Sons of Israel”) are a group of Jews who live in various Indian cities, Mumbai, Pune, Ahmedabad. Prior to their waves of emigration to Israel and still to this day, the Bene Israel form the largest sector of the subcontinent’s Jewish population, and constitute the bulk of those sometimes referred to as Pakistani Jews. The native language of the Bene Israel is Judæo-Marathi, a form of Marathi. Most Bene Israel have now emigrated to Israel.
In 2010, Amir Mizroch in the Jerusalem Post referred to the theory that even Pashtuns in Afghanistan and Pakistan could be descending from the lost tribe of Efraim. Shahnaz Ali, a senior research fellow at the Indian National Institute of Immunohematology in Mumbai, has started studying the blood samples that she collected from Afridi Pathans in Malihabad, in the Lucknow district in Uttar Pradesh, India, to check their putative Israelite origin.[27][28][29][30]
[edit]Bnei Menashe of India
Main article: Bnei Menashe
The Bnei Menashe (from northeast India) claim descent from the lost Tribe of Manasseh. Their oral traditions depict them as originally going from the Persian Empire into Afghanistan. (They may have been in the Persian Empire because it occupied the lands of Assyria when it conquered Babylonia.) According to their traditions, they then went to China, where they encountered persecution, then pressed on to India and Southern Asia.[31] DNA tests to determine whether or not they originate from the Middle East has yielded mixed results.The Israeli government has recognized them as one of the lost tribes and made them eligible for immigration under the Law of Return.
Yoruba I maybe Jewish since my ancestors came from Eastern India. Be careful of your pronouncements on me?
Identity is a simple thing. It is only the Serpent, who is Satan, or the Devil, who has vested interest in making it complicated.
Identity in the biblical sense descends from the paternal line. For example, the patriarch Joseph, who became Prime Minister of Egypt, married an Egyptian woman, who bore him two sons, Manasseh and Ephraim. To a T&T sensibility, they would be counted as “doh-gla” (literally “two tongues”), or mixed. In Yahweh’s reckoning, they were 100% sons of Jacob.
(Modern DNA analysis would confirm the scientific reality of paternal identity. It is revealed by the Y-chromosome, which is passed from father to son.)
It is in that way that I am 100% son-of-Jacob, or Israelite.
How does “Yoruba” come into it? Think again to Ephraim and Manasseh, who were sons of an Egyptian — therefore Hamitic — woman. They might also have been called “Egyptian Israelite”. By obvious analogy, you will find there your answer. There is no oxymoron.
The Book of Yahweh lets us know that the sons of Jacob would be scattered to the four corners; see Deuteronomy 28:64. Therefore, I do not dispute, and indeed affirm, that there were sons of Jacob scattered to the Indian sub-continent. I also would affirm that some made it across the Kala Pani and have taken up residence in T&T.
The sheep will recognize their master’s voice when they hear the call to “come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and receive not of her plagues”. If you engage in Indo triumphalism, compounded by smug Cosby-ism … both of which follow Babylon “in her hated ways” … I expect you are not of the flock of lost sheep being called back to the Master.
But that is a matter between you and the Most High. If He exults whenever any lost sheep is found, so will I. In the meantime, I am called among others, to “cry aloud, spare not, and shew my people their transgressions”. It is for that reason that I do not mince words.
But envy is such that there are all manner of people who would claim for themselves the birthright of the sons of Jacob. Those who today call themselves “Jewish” … perhaps because they “wish” they were … are one such. The Book of Yahweh lets us know that they are impostors:
“Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee” (Revelation 3:9).
As I said at the outset, it is only those of the synagogue of Satan that have a vested interest in making a simple matter complicated, and deceiving the whole world thereby. That is why, the “Negro” was made to lose his identity … as was prophesied; see Jeremiah 17:4, also Deuteronomy 28:64 … the better that the fraud of identity theft might succeed.
Those who claim “Jewish” identity are not sons of Jacob, barring some in-mixing from priests who carried out the “conversions”, variously of the Edomites, Sephardim, and Khazars, who constitute the bulk of those who today call themselves “Jewish”.
There are many fake-Jews who also made it to the Indian sub-continent, and many of those have indeed made it over to the land of Palestine and joined with their fellow-impostors. Equally, there are bona-fide sons of Jacob, e.g. the beta-Israel of Ethiopia, and perhaps the bnei-Menashe of north-eastern India, who have also gone there.
But be all that as it may, the *only* people on the planet who fulfill *all* the curses that would befall the true sons of Jacob, are the “Negro” descendants of the trans-Atlantic slave trade. We here of the former British West Indies are of the tribe of Benjamin. Our brethren that were taken to the U.S. are of the tribe of Judah. Those that were taken to Haiti are of the tribe of Levi.
Let those who are wise, consider. Open up the Book and read.
Shalom.
Yoruba, the Jews have been under divine judgment. Jesus saw it and wept over Jerusalem prior to him going to the cross. AD 70 the Roman General Titus enters Jerusalem and slaughtered the Jews burning down the temple. According to Joesphus the Jewish historian, the blood of those slaughtered flowed down the narrow streets like a flood. Hitler did far worst, an unspeakable crime….slaughtering millions.
“Hitler did far worst, an unspeakable crime….slaughtering millions.” Mamboo
You know people,this blatant disgust for anything Afrikans, even to the point -as displayed by our ‘caring -TriniCenter Nation-Pro-Hindustanist,’Mamboo-where not even a bit of empathy can also be given to them , as to their dehumanizing plights , especially by Europeans, and other fringe races , is incredible,to the point where, these frauds, blame Afrikan folks, for their own slavery.
Tell you what, it was Afro Caribbean Francophonian/ intellectual,Franz Fanon ,in his world famous Book , Black Skin, white mask, who tried to despel some of thesebattitudes, as he once caimed de following:-
“Sometimes people hold a core belief that is very strong.When they are presented with evidence that works against that belief, the new evidence cannot be accepted.It would create a feeling that is extremely uncomfortable,called cognitive dissonance.And because it is so important to protect the core belief,they will rationalize,ignore and even deny anything that doesn’t fit in with the core belief.”
I therefore do not begrudge you ,Cuz Yaruba Israelite, and your seemingly mammoth/ impossible task ,of trying to prove that Global Afrikans ,are in actuality , ‘de authentic Jews of Planet earth,’ and not those selfish, pro Apathied Savages-not only yourself , but numerous Historically learned folks,are coming to see as mere imposters.
I always find it amusing to see de Mamboos of the world ,just like those phony Christaian , Right wing Americans,and equally conniving Europeans,try their best,to feign concern,about the ‘life time victim folks,’who were kicked out of de Middle East , by their (Afrikan hating), Arab ,and Islamist cousins.
The irony Yarauba , is that given a chance,White wannabe like Mamboo,as well, as authentic white Europeans ,does not give a hoot about the life of a single Afrikan , alive or dead , neither do they care about the folks that in your view , pretend’s to be Jews, and that I say – what a tragedy!
I’ll admit this much ,more so ,as a form of compromise , and also primarily ,because I have not given as much thought to the subject as I should-unlike countless,Reperation advocates.
Itbwould be indeed challenging,trying to logisticslly administer,any major settlement,that might accrue down the road, if the putrid conscience of slave beneficiaries , were to soften.
Sqd but true , but I once heard a typicqlly idiotic,Middle V
Class ,Afrikan American leader, once say , that payments should only be made,which are based on how long one’s family tree began living in America.
Por ejemplo 1st generation , would get X,Versus generation 4 , or even six, leading all the way back to slavery.
Those Jewish bankers, and White Christian slave owning ,modern families,including leading century old, Business corporations,that profited from th sweat, blood, and tears of Afrikan slaves, must be laughing themselves to sleep, at such ‘divide and rule,’victimized mindset.
Let’s continue the fight!
Neal, I never said “Global Afrikans are Jews”. Every “Afrikan” is not a son of Jacob. And every son of Jacob is not “Afrikan”, in the sense of being black-skinned and woolly-haired.
Also, there are any number of black-skinned and woolly-haired people, e.g. the Melanesians of the South Pacific, and even the Indian Ocean, who would have left Africa even earlier than some “white” people.
Of all the black-skinned, woolly-haired people in Africa and elsewhere, some are Hamitic, some Shemitic.
Of the Hamites, there are four divisions, namely Kush (Ethiopia/Sudan), Mizraim (Egypt/Khamit), Phut (Somalia, possibly Libya) and Canaan (original inhabitants of Palestine, e.g. Jebusites, or Ijebu tribe of Nigeria today, but the Philistines are related to Mizraim, not Ham).
Of the Shemites, most are Abrahamic … notably Hebrew Ishmaelites (Arabs), Hebrew Edomites, and Hebrew Israelites, but including others such as the Hagarenes, Keturites, etc.
Only the Hebrew Israelites are sons of Jacob, and must be distinguished from all others, since their (our) fate — notably slavery, trans-Atlantic and trans-Sahara — these last 2,500 years is what distinguishes them (us) from all other people on the planet.
Certainly Hebrew Israelites, Edomites and Ishmaelites have been scattered all over Africa; e.g. see Joseph J. Williams, Hebrewisms of West Africa; but bear in mind, that not every Hebrewism implies Hebrew Israelite.
Bear in mind also that it is our near-brethren, namely Hebrew Edomites, Hebrew Ishmaelites who are counted first as among our enemies:
“2 For, lo, thine enemies make a tumult: and they that hate thee have lifted up the head.3 They have taken crafty counsel against thy people, and consulted against thy hidden ones. 4 They have said, Come, and let us cut them off from being a nation; that the name of Israel may be no more in remembrance. 5 For they have consulted together with one consent: they are confederate against thee: 6 The tabernacles of Edom, and the Ishmaelites; of Moab, and the Hagarenes…” (Psalms 83:2-6)
As prophesied, so it became, with Edomites (black and white) and Ishmaelites (red and black Arabs) implicated in both the trans-Atlantic and trans-Sahara slave trades.
The matter is complicated. As with everything else, it requires study. But be sure that the principal study text is the Book of Yahweh. It is “Our Story”. It has however been twisted by those who would “cut us off from being a nation” that we do not come back to the keys of remembrance of who we are as a people. It is a gift of the Holy Spirit that any of us come to remember; see Isaiah 44:4.
You all can do so without me. If you study Scripture, you would know that reparations will be at the hand of Yahweh.
“For thus saith Yahweh, Ye have sold yourselves for nought; and ye shall be redeemed without money” (Isaiah 52:3).
“And Yahweh shall bring thee into Egypt (i.e. bondage) again with ships, … and there ye shall be sold unto your enemies for bondmen and bondwomen (i.e. slaves), and no man shall buy (i.e. redeem) you” (Deuteronomy 28:68).
Yes we will come out “with great substance”; see Genesis 15:13-14. But it will not be a reparations program. Here is how it will play out:
“For, behold, Yahweh will come with fire, and with his chariots like a whirlwind, to render his anger with fury, and his rebuke with flames of fire. 16 For by fire and by his sword will Yahweh plead with all flesh: and the slain of Yahweh shall be many. …
20 And they shall bring all your brethren for an offering unto Yahweh out of all nations upon horses, and in chariots, and in litters, and upon mules, and upon swift beasts, to my holy mountain Jerusalem, saith Yahweh, as the children of Israel bring an offering in a clean vessel into the house of Yahweh” (Isaiah 66:15-20)
Basically, Yahweh will put the fear of God into them, and they will bring us out hoping to be forgiven. Trust me, just as we did not pay passage to make the Middle Passage into slavery, we will not have to pay passage, or obtain visas, to make the trip back to Jerusalem. And they will be tossing gold and silver at us hoping to be blessed and forgiven thereby. This will mirror the original Exodus.
So doh hu’t yuh head about reparations. How it will go down is already written. By all means make the demand, but all talk about $770 trillion etc. and working out logistical detail, etc. is unnecessary.
In particular, bear in mind, I repeat, most reparations will be paid in kind, not in treasure, e.g.:
“And kings shall be thy nursing fathers, and their queens thy nursing mothers: they shall bow down to thee with their face toward the earth, and lick up the dust of thy feet; and thou shalt know that I am Yahweh: for they shall not be ashamed that wait for me” (Isaiah 49:23)
Shalom.
And the trans-Atlantic slave trade topped whatever Hitler did. So … what is your point?
If it is that the “Negro” cannot be the real “Jew”, then that would make a nonsense of Revelation 3:9 …
“Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them (the fake Jew) to come and worship before thy feet (the real Jew), and to know that I have loved thee”
… which implies that both, fake Jew and real Jew, would have survived the sack of Jerusalem in 70 CE.
Btw, the term “Jew” has narrow and broad referents. The narrow reference is to sons of Judah, fourth son of Jacob. A less narrow reference is to those of the southern kingdom termed “Judah”, which comprised the tribes of Judah, Benjamin, and a large share of Levi. The broad reference includes all the mingled tribes of the Roman province of Judea.
The broad reference would have included the Sephardic Jews who were converted to worship of Yahweh (ca. 740 BCE); see the story told at 2 Kings 17:24-28. They are the people called “Samaritans” in Yeshua’s day, and today called Sephardic Jews.
Also included were the Edomite Jews, who had converted by Yeshua’s day.
The following scripture may be understood against this background: “These twelve (the apostles) Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not: 6 But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel” (Matthew 10:5-6).
Much later, the Khazar Jews … who hail from the Caucasus area and descend from the seed of Japheth, and who today comprise the bulk of the impostor-Jews today … were converted likewise; ca. 750 CE, see Arthur Koestler, The 133th Tribe; see also Shlomo Sand, The Invention of the Jewish people.
Thus Revelation 3:9 is drawing distinction between real Jews in the sense of being seedline sons of Judah, Benjamin or Levi (southern kingdom), and fake Jews who are Edomite, Sephardic or Khazar by descent, and who moreover are the very “synagogue of Satan”.
Real Jews, and fake Jews, both, would have survived the Roman sack of Jerusalem in 70 CE; see Rudolf Windsor, From Babylon to Timbuktu for an account of the scattering of the real Jews into Africa after the Roman sack of Jerusalem. Later, the fake Jews certainly survived Hitler.
Now, as to “divine judgment”. The real Jews have been punished these last roughly 2,500 years. The four kingdoms of the Gentiles spoken of by the prophet Daniel precisely were raised up to tear us into pieces; see in particular Daniel, chap 7.
The fourth kingdom of the Gentiles has been the fake-Jew kingdom. The fake Jews are the common thread that runs through every pre-eminent power that has arisen under the fourth kingdom, including Rome (Titus’ sack of Jerusalem notwithstanding) and continuing down to Spanish, Dutch, British and American Empires of more recent history.
The story of six million fake-Jews being slaughtered by Hitler is a lie; google Robert Faurisson to delve into the factual aspects of this lie. For the spiritual aspects, the key clue lies in the term “Holocaust”, which literally means a burnt offering. It is the synagogue of Satan that is responsible for it, not Hitler.
At any rate, a set time frame was given for the fourth kingdom: “And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High (the sons of Jacob), and think to change times and laws (e.g. the claim that the Law of Moses has been ‘done away with’): and they shall be given into his (the fake Jews) hand until a time and times and the dividing of time” (Daniel 7:25).
That set time of a “time and times and the dividing of time”, decoded, is approximately 2,250 years; where a “time” is 1,000 years, and the “dividing of time” is a dividing upon dividing, or a quarter of 1,000 years. The set time allotted for the fourth kingdom — which started soon after the fall of Greece, the 3rd kingdom, ca. 276 BCE — is thus at an end. The return of Yahweh and Yeshua is thus imminent. For those with eyes to see, the prophetic signs are all around us.
What this means, in the context of the present discussion, is that “reparations” also are around the corner. But it will take a form that cannot be contemplated within the Africentrist paradigm. And those who disdain “lazy Quashie” will have a chance to show Quashie how well suited they are to labour under a “blazing hot sun”. There shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.
Shalom.
I hold the view that you are very qualified in researching the lineage on the progeny from the seed of Abraham. You have taken great pains to identify real from false Jew, with discernment being a great gift. Alhough I have read some interesting literature in my time e.g. ‘The Spiritual Man’ by Watchman Nee (died on June 01/72). He was convinced he would live to be part of the ‘Rapture’. I hold the view that no man knows with any certainty what awaits him beside the Holy Spirit. Then Peter said, “Silver and gold have I none; but such as I have I give you: In the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth rise up and walk”. Reparations are not only silver and gold, but the very air that we breathe is also a gift. Power can be a form of reparation. I agree with you this is not a forum to fight but to learn from one another. Keep up the good work.
As part of Yahweh’s redemption of his people, there will be a sort of reparations. But it will be very different from what Africentrists have in mind. For instance: some “Afrikans” will in fact have to pay reparations; for example, the Ashanti, through Nana Numamapau (ca. 2000) have already formally apologized for their role in the slave trade, and offered reparations in the form of land grant in the Fihankra area of Ghana.
Yahweh’s way is just and equal. Therefore reparations will be paid in full, eye for an eye. For that to happen, it must be paid, principally, in kind: “He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints (real Jews)” (Revelation 13:10).
There are many who are called, or think they are called. It is a different matter entirely to be sent. There shall no Gentile be sent, but in false prophecy they shall abound:
“O Yahweh, my strength, and my fortress, and my refuge in the day of affliction, the Gentiles shall come unto thee from the ends of the earth, and shall say, Surely our fathers have inherited lies, vanity, and things wherein there is no profit” (Jeremiah 16:19).
Remember also Yeshua’s warning: “And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you. 5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many” (Matthew 24:4-5). The Gentile Christians, many unwittingly, are such deceivers.
The sooner the “Negroes”, realize that it is to us, real Jews, that is given the Word, the sooner individually will we free ourselves to be schooled directly by the Holy Spirit. It is the Holy Spirit that is the Comforter sent to guide us “in all truth”; see John 16:13. We have but to submit ourselves in all humility, and ask, and he will guide us in reading and decoding “Our Story” as written in the Book of Yahweh. The decoding and understanding of that Book is a gift of the Holy Spirit, more specifically for those who are not only called, but sent; see e.g. Exodus 19:5-6, Daniel 7:14,27, Revelation 5:10.
Was Watchman Nee a real Jew? Did Watchman Nee claim to have been sent, and if so, by whom and to whom?
Every true prophet will at least claim to have been sent, as did Yeshua; see Amos 3:8 for the principle, and Matthew 15:24, Amos 7:15 as examples.
My larger point is that we must stop first all the lies, from whatever quarter. Truth will not be found in any -ism or ideology. All such talk is intended to keep the “Negro” from remembering who he is, and what his real mission is on the planet. That real mission will not have him do wrong by any man. At the same time, those who have done wrong by him must pay recompense, and so it is written.
Shalom.
Isaiah 60:1-3. Arise, shine; for thy light is come, and the glory of Yahweh is risen upon thee. 2 For, behold, the darkness shall cover the earth, and gross darkness the people: but Yahweh shall arise upon thee, and his glory shall be seen upon thee. 3 And the Gentiles shall come to thy light, and kings to the brightness of thy rising.
The time to appreciate the contributions of others need to be enjoyed now in order for us to grow and develop as a nation of proud Trinidadians. It would be foolhardy to insult our ancestors but let their suffering yield pride in our performance. All ethnicities have done very well in the field of education home and abroad.
http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=GsTqmEeBKhw&vq=medium#t
So let us now spare a thought for Dai Ailian , the Trinidad-born ballerina who is acknowledged as being “The Mother of Modern Chinese Dance”. She was born in Trinidad in 1916 and was sent to London to train as a ballerina. She died in Beijing in 2006.
A bust of Dai Ailian is to be found in the Reception Lobby of the Royal Academy of Dance in England.
“Isaac Junction ” in Couva is named after her father who had a shop at this junction.
Obviously ” Isaac” was his English name.
“If we awoke one morning to find everyone were the same race, color and creed, we’d find a new cause for prejudice by noon.”
-Senator George Aiken
Very true e.g. Yorkshire (white) vs Lancashire (red) (the war of the roses). N.Ireland (Protestants) vs.Ireland (Catholics) In Rwanda Hutus vs Tutsis. In India (Hindus vs.Muslims) and it goes on and on …. and yet the colour of blood is red.
With respect to Watchman Nee, he’s not a Jew but a Chinese gentleman. http://www.watchmannee.org/life-ministry.html
The solution is to acknowledge difference, be visionary and forge an understanding to co-exist. After all Isaac was the son of Abraham and Sarah, Ishmael was the son of Abraham and Hagar. Sarah gave her husband Abraham permission to enter into Hagar and Ishmael came on the scene, soon to be followed by Isaac from Sarah’s womb. Sarah then kicked out Hagar and her son out of their household. Was it because of jealousy? I love life!
Unfortunately there will always be racism and other sorts of division to one degree or another just as there will always be alcoholics, hatred and malcontents. It’s human nature. Having said that, we (and I mean collectively) have made great strides in the last 50-100 years and I still believe that things continue to improve. To ignore those strides is tantamount to wielding the hand that would hold them down. To ignore what has been accomplished and what is possible in favor of what remains elusive is a grave mistake and dare I say just as small minded as the most egregious of racists.
Young people should take a long hard look at Jackie Robinson and Dr. King’s legacies rather than just paying lip service. These men (and I use the word ‘men’ in the boldest sense of the word) had no notion of entitlement. No desire to demand anymore than HE had rightfully earned. Unfortunately some of the famous and well known who were close to Jackie and Dr. King paid no attention to what was right before them and they still don’t to this very day.
Never let it die!! Fairness, justice and charity are not tenets of this world…but their opposits are. Dr. Nantambu, those with likemindedness can rekindle the need for repatriation to the most disinfranchised group in history, but evil men pervades…and so to their actions, thoughts, and their offsprings. For those who wish to think of the Africans as none contributors to, let them think again…