By Clint Chan Tack
Thursday, May 7 2015 – newsday.co.tt
OPPOSITION Leader Dr Keith Rowley was last night suspended from the House of Representatives after Government used its simple majority to pass a motion to suspend him on the basis of claims he made with respect to the emailgate matter.
The motion was passed in the House at 9.15 pm, by a vote of 24 ‘for’ to one ‘against’, hours after Rowley and 11 other People’s National Movement (PNM) MPs walked out of the Parliament Chamber after debate began on a second motion of no confidence against him.
San Fernando East MP Patrick Manning was not present, having been granted leave by Speaker Wade Mark from yesterday’s sitting. Foreign Affairs Minister Winston Dookeran and Public Administration Minister Carolyn Seepersad-Bachan were also not present for the vote.
Chaguanas West MP and Independent Liberal Party leader Jack Warner, was the only dissenting vote.
Full Article : newsday.co.tt
Two years after Emailgate revelations: Rowley censured
Approximately six weeks before the end of the Parliamentary term, Opposition People’s National Movement (PNM) leader Dr Keith Rowley was last night suspended from the Parliament’s service for the rest of the term, via majority Government vote. Independent Liberal Party (ILP) MP Jack Warner was the lone voice voting against the historic move, in the face of 24 People’s Partnership (PP) votes in favour of suspending Rowley.
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Suspension will be challenged in court
By Richard Lord
May 7, 2015 – guardian.co.tt
Any decision to suspend the Opposition Leader from the House is expected to be challenged in court by at least one constituent from Diego Martin West. This as Opposition Leader Dr Keith Rowley and all Opposition MPs who were present in the Parliament yesterday walked out of the chamber after MP for Diego Martin Northeast Colm Imbert spoke at yesterday’s motion, piloted by Leader of Government Business, Dr Roodal Moonilal to suspend Rowley from the Parliament over his Emailgate allegations.
Speaking with reporters minutes later, Rowley said if he were to stay in the Parliament for the debate he would effectively be engaging in an illegal activity and consequently it may prejudice any future moves by his constituents to seek legal recourse in the matter. He said the Government was hoping “if the people of Diego Martin West challenge their (its) illegal actions, then it can be said that I participated in the proceedings and gave it such legitimacy.”
Rowley said it was because of that basis “we have taken the position once again not to participate in the Government’s irregular and illicit proceedings.” Opposition MPs walked out of the Parliament in protest yesterday. Rowley said the Government’s move to suspend a MP on a substantive motion was unprecedented in T&T and the Commonwealth.
He told reporters in the interview in Parliament yesterday the Government had every opportunity to deal with his statements on the Emailgate matter by referring him to the Committee of Privileges but it did not do that. He said if he was sent to the committee on the E-mailgate statements he would have had “no choice but to appear before the committee.” He said he would have had the opportunity to challenge all that they had said.
Rowley was, however, referred to the said committee earlier yesterday for statements he made in presenting a motion of no confidence in Finance and the Economy Minister Larry Howai two weeks ago. Speaker Mark ruled that a prima facie case was made out against Rowley for alleged contempt of Parliament and he was referred to the committee for investigation.
Rowley said as a MP he also had freedom of speech. Rowley said the Government should have followed the law in seeking to challenge his statements on the matter. “We will engage them on this and every other issue on the outside,” he insisted. Noting that Moonilal made no mention of the Section 34 fiasco, Rowley said: “We understand that what is contained in those texts it had all to do with Section 34.”
Asked if he was contemplating legal action, Rowley said he “will cross every bridge as I approach it.” Saying that he was a representative of the people of Diego Martin West, Rowley added: “In the event that the Government takes any action, in or out of this House, that prejudices the interest of Diego Martin West I will be duty-bound to represent them to the end.”
He said the earlier decision by House Speaker Wade Mark to refer him to the Privileges Committee was “all part of a desperation and a need for a distraction.” He said the ruling of Speaker Mark was “just outright scandalous.” Rowley said the standing orders provided for the mover of the motion of no confidence in Howai to present it and also wind it up the debate.
Source: http://www.guardian.co.tt/news/2015-05-07/suspension-will-be-challenged-court
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ROWLEY KICKED OUT
Opposition Leader Dr Keith Rowley was suspended from the Parliament at 9.15 last night and therefore will not be allowed to return to the House for the remainder of the session. Parliament will automatically dissolve by June 17. A total of 24 Government members voted for Rowley to be kicked out of Parliament, with only the Chaguanas West MP, who is also the leader of the Independent Liberal Party (ILP), voting against the motion.
Rowley sent to Privileges Committee
SPEAKER Wade Mark yesterday ruled that Opposition Leader Dr Keith Rowley has a case to answer in relation to a complaint brought by Prime Minister Kamla Persad-Bissessar on Rowley’s use of an unsigned document during a motion of censure against Finance Minister Larry Howai in April.
Jack: Withdraw censure motion
CHAGUANAS West MP, Jack Warner, urged the Government to drop its censure motion against Opposition Leader, Dr Keith Rowley, saying it is a bad precedent that clears the way for any other Opposition MP to be suspended.
…Imbert slams ‘kangaroo court’
The Opposition walked out of the Parliament again yesterday, accusing the Government of abuse of parliamentary privilege in its motion to suspend Opposition Leader Dr Keith Rowley from the House.
‘Abused’ PNM MPs walkout…again
OPPOSITION Leader Dr Keith Rowley’s last act in the House of Representatives for the current parliamentary term, was to lead his MPs in a walkout as Government brought and eventually passed a motion of censure against him for his emailgate revelations.
Rowley: I won’t be part of illegal process
PNM walks out again
What else do we need to know about Kamla Persad Bissessar in order to understand that she presides over a dictatorship in the guise of of a parliamentary democracy? When people who have been given the reins of democracy in a universal and democratic process, flaunts and abuse that process, then we have to be more than concerned for what may become of that process and democracy.
Kamla, Wade Mark and the UNC have done all they can to act as GOD in order to make Dr. Keith Rowley look bad. They have tried to pre-determine his sexual behavior, they have called him names, they have used the electoral process to tell their tribal constituents that their children cannot be trusted around Dr. Rowley, have used intimidating methods to silence him, they have used the parliament to say the damnest things about him personally and professionally and now – they don’t want the public to hear his voice that he has been constitutionally been appointed to do. So, they are trying to be judge, jury and executioner, twisting the spirit of democracy to suit their evil purpose. The goons that followed Kamla and her EVIL pursuit to GET DR. ROWLEY BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY ARE IN FACT ONLY FOOLING THEMSELVES because they people of this country are not foolish. We are fooled sometimes, as when we thought that she was better than Bassdeo Panday or when we decided that she was better than Patrick Manning. But now the EVIL that has been thrust upon us in 2010 has taken its rightful place on the Palace of the devil and preaching to us how hurt and saintly they are when the have destroyed every institution upon which this country has built its character. We are no longer safe to believe in the Parliament, we are no longer safe to believe in the institution of the Presidency of the Republic. We are no longer safe to believe in the corridors of the justice system. We are no longer safe to believe in the systems of the courts. We are no longer safe to believe that we have the right to have our representative speak for us. We are no longer safe depend on our our Policing because, that too is now being dictated on how to operate. We are no longer safe to believe what is true and what is not true because that too is being dictated to us. When all else fails and they only thing we have is the power of faith to look up too, we are no longer safe to believe that we will find the will of god existing there because there too, the infiltration of Paganism has taken root and we now have a pagan to leads there too. The most sacred institution that needed no governance, no overlooking, not act of parliament, no convincing, no laws to pass, just an act of religiosity, unselfishness, commonsense, decency and goodwill – the IRO – that too has been given command of paganism that has encroached into our lives, have taken over our souls and is forever knocking at the DEVIL’S door. They now have complete control of our existence and there is no institution to defend our decency, our love for country, our constitution, our love for life, our way of life, our wishes for betterment and our hope for a bright future any more. They have usurped the pillars of our existence as a democracy. The military is in their hands. The police is in their hands. The fire services is in their hands. The Prison is in their hands. The will of christian unity is in their hands. There are no pillars or rock left standing because Delilah (K) has blinded Sampson(M) to destroy the rock and pillars of the future of that democracy that we cherish to innocently. What else is there?
Are they to be left alone to determine what is good and what is bad for all of us? Are we to believe that they have the right to tell us that they are to tell themselves that because they are the government, they have a right to even choose our opposition for us too? Have we gone mad with power? What kind of a monster have we put in place in the guise of the UNC that tells themselves that they have the power to do anything they want?
People, this is no time to sleep, you have seen your parliament been made a mockery, you have seen your justice system been made a mockery, you have seen whatever is left of policing been controlled by evil forces, we have even seen christianity come to the alter of the devil, accepting gifts from these forces of evil, then going back to their flocks to preach to the power of Jehovah to them. What fallacy? The Psalm says “The lord is my shepard, I shall not want, He maketh me to lie in green pastures, He leadeth beside still waters, He restoreth my soul…….”.
This country was founded and presided over by christian principles for the past six hundred years and now with the help of the devil and the institutionalization of paganism we have lost our way to the Lord, only because we have placed our wants before our needs. This too, shall come to pass because the Lord will not fail his people. We shall Overcome!
Could you show where it is stated that “This country was founded and presided over by christian principles for the past six hundred years”.
This was taught to my elementary class:Columbus on his approach to Trinidad observed the “three” mountain ranges.It reminded him of the “Holy Trin…ity”.He fell on his knees,and called the island “Trini..dad”
If you are a Trinidadian and you are not aware of basic rudimentary history of the island, then there is no reason for me to explain. If you are not, then learn your history.
Ooops! that should read;”La Trinidad” that was taught to me in elementary school in San Fernando,Trinidad!!…Columbus was financed by King Ferdinand and Queen Isabella of Spain.He (Columbus) was Italian….Hence the capital:Port of Spain.
San Fernando is a Spanish name;therefore,Don Jose Maria Chacon was the “first” governor of Trinidad..this is presented from pure “memory”….
GOON IN THE 1500s CATHOLICS TOOK OVER T&T (1498). WHICH SCHOOL YOU WENT TO. THE BRITISH ONLY WANTED ELDORADO, ALONG WITH THE SPANISH. IT IS THE FRENCH WITH THEIR RELIGIOUS BELIEFS THAT TOOK CONTROL OF US. THE COOLIES CAME LONG AFTER.
“The goons that followed Kamla and her EVIL pursuit to GET DR. ROWLEY BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY ARE IN FACT ONLY FOOLING THEMSELVES because they people of this country are not foolish.”–Kian
Dr. Rowley fabricated 31 emails and presented it to the Parliament accusing the Prime Minister, AG, Gary Griffith and Suruj Rambachan of conspiring to murder a journalist, of planning to move the current DPP, of spying in his office… There was an e-mail alleging the US Charge d’ Affairs, Thomas Smitham, was in cahoots with Government members in a conspiracy.Immediately upon making his famous statement in Parliament the Honorable Prime Minister asked for copies and referred the matter to the CoP for immediate investigation. Does that sound like the work of a goon to you Kian, obviously it does.
After 2 years and no conclusion to the issue the Prime Minister acted and sent the big time liar where he belongs back to Balisier house for comfort. Your leader Kian is a terrible liar and he wants to be Prime Minister. hahahahahaa… At his age no hope of him learning to speak the truth.
KIAN I WANT TO KNOW THE EXACT CONNECTION WITH CLUB 88 AND SECTION 34. DURING MY YEARS TRYING TO FIX TRINGEN 11 (FEDCHEM) WHICH WAS SUPPOSED TO BE BUILT FOR 250 MILLION USD, I REALISED THAT ONLY 180 MILLION USD WAS USED IN THE PROJECT TO BUILD THE PLANT. THE PLANT WAS BUILT BETWEEN 1986-1988 DURING THE PANDAY YEARS IN POWER ( NAR -1986 -1990 ). 70 MILLION USD (250-180) WITH ISH – NORTHERN CONSTRUCTION THE MAIN CONTRACTOR, DISAPPEARED. THE UNC WAS FORMED IN 1990. THE 70 MILLION USD WAS NOT CLAIMED EVEN AFTER THE PLANT TOOK OVER ONE YEAR TO COMMISSION (A PLANT OF THIS TYPE NORMALLY TAKES ONE MONTH TO COMMISSION). THIS PLANT WAS BUILT BY A CONTRACTOR WHO KNEW NOTHING ABOUT BUILDING A PLANT WITH ENDLESS PARTS/PIECES LEFT OVER AFTER CONSTRUCTION. AND OF COURSE DURING 1988 THEIR WERE MANY DISASTERS DURING ATTEMPTS TO START THE PLANT. YOU CONNECT THE DOTS.
Kian in the words of your dear leader, he said he was prepared to go to jail if the emails were wrong. Since it was proven to be wrong don’t you think he should break a jail?
Proverbs 6:16-19
16 These six things the Lord hates,
Yes, seven are an abomination to Him:
17 A proud look,
A lying tongue,
Hands that shed innocent blood,
18 A heart that devises wicked plans,
Feet that are swift in running to evil,
19 A false witness who speaks lies,
And one who sows discord among brethren.
http://www.newsday.co.tt/news/0,178190.html
“OPPOSITION Leader Dr Keith Rowley declared he is unafraid to go to jail over the email affair, saying he would rather be among criminals in jail than among criminals in Parliament.
“I prefer to be in jail in Golden Grove or Frederick Street (Port-of-Spain) than in Parliament with the criminals,” he said.
He was talking at a PNM rally at the Croisee, San Juan, on Thursday night.
Rowley quoted former Jamaica prime minister, the late Sir Alexander Bustamante, as saying a man has not visited his whole country until he has been to jail.”
Rowley asked for what he got….plain and simple. How could you bring false information into the Parliament and accuse the PM and her government of attempted murder, illegally placing bugging devices in the office of the DP, and other cooked up conspiracies and expect to pass these serious accusations as fact. Legal documents provided by Google and federal courts of the US prove that Rowley’s complete bag of email gate tricks were complete and intentional fabrications, presented to Parliament to destabilize the government. The Police investigated the bugging accusations and found no evidence of interference in the office of the Director of Public Prosecutions. As the PM referenced in the House, the PNM used some actual events to “predict the past” in a circle of deception, expecting the public to believe Rowley’s tangled web of deceit.
A Prime Ministerial reaction would have been a public apology, rather than an arrogant, belligerent walk out of the Parliament, shouting and screaming like a thug.
“The most sacred institution that needed no governance, no overlooking, not act of parliament, no convincing, no laws to pass, just an act of religiosity, unselfishness, commonsense, decency and goodwill – the IRO – that too has been given command of paganism that has encroached into our lives, have taken over our souls and is forever knocking at the DEVIL’S door” (KIAN)
Someone who thinks like this has deep psychological problems and should be treated by professionals. This is insanity unbound!
PEOPLE WHO NEED A PSYCHOLOGIST ARE THOSE WHO PROMOTE THEMSELVES TO SC OR PASS A COURSE WITHOUT ANY FORM OF EXAM LIKE THE REST OF US OR TAKE HOUSING SUBSIDY WITHOUT A HOUSE OR THOSE THAT DO INSIDER TRADING TO BENEFIT THEIR DEEP POCKETS OR THOSE THAT TAKE JOBS WITH FALSE PAPERS OR THOSE THAT PLAY JUDGE AND JURY WITH THE LIVES OF OTHERS IN OUR PARLIAMENT ETC.
TMan, I chose to answer you on this one separately because the idea of the IRO is objectively a magnificent one. When all else fails, we need to turn to our God for forgiveness, guidance and hope. It is a recognizable fact that we are most comfortable when we speak to our god and our pastors in confidence. With that same objective, God is the boss of these pastors, priests or whatever they call themselves. But in the advent of Kamlamania, she ordered the IRO to meet with Dr. Kublalsingh regarding his hunger strike and report to her. What? Report to Kamla? Is she god? as you might ask. My morality tells me that since my conscience and my religion should be between me and my pastor, no one else, including Kamla should be interfering. The mere idea that the IRO, under the guidance of it’s president or head Pundit Maharaj just willingly obliged and reported back to Kamla that Dr Kublalsingh is a fake, was too much for me to continue having respect for them. If their business is God’s business, then serve God. But since they are mixing it with politics and other worldly affairs, I cannot in good conscience have the same respect for them that I once had.
In case we forgot this historical era in T&T politics!
THE LONG ARM OF THE PNM: GET THEM BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY
– read Dave Persad’s reminder on Facebook
Written by Dave Persad [Begin]
I stand to be corrected, but bear with me, I remember in one of the general elections. There was a no vote campaign, in which the PNM won all the seats, and there was no opposition in Parliament, the PNM, then had one of its MP/member cross the floor and that member became the official opposition. We had a Parliament with only PNM members. (In the lower house).
Then there is this other more recent case in which during the general election. The PNM won 18 seats, the UNC won 18 seats there was a tie, the then president ANR Robinson decided to appoint the leader of the opposition Patrick Manning as the new Prime Minister, the incumbent Basdeo Panday was removed from office, based on moral and spiritual values, (no part of our Constitution allows the president to appoint a prime minister, based on moral and spiritual values, the president used the preamble of the Constitution to justify this). It is instructive to note that the Port-of-Spain centered media and those who influence public opinion, remain quiet and said nothing about it, basically, they were supporting the PNM.
This new PNM government on the Patrick Manning with 18 seats now had a problem, they had to elect a speaker of the house, they had no majority, so they came up with a number of plans and scenarios, one of them was to arrest a UNC MP, so that the opposition will be reduced to 17 seats making PNM the majority with 18 seats, this will allow them to elect a speaker of the out, the UNC MPs were (all 18) staying at a Port-of-Spain hotel had to change rooms and use different names for fear of being arrested by the PNM and the PNM police force. (Somebody needs to write a book about this.)
A new plan was hatched, under the PNM Patrick Manning 18 seats, the PNM plan to move Parliament temporary to Chaguaramas, and have the police service Institute a roadblock to prevent the UNC MP for getting to Chaguaramas, this way the PNM would have a majority and they would be able to elect a speaker of the house, remember, you cannot have a Parliament without a speaker, but this plan was discovered and the PNM was expose,
Then, Hector McLean former MP, who I think was the last speaker came up with some fancy idea that will allow the PNM to elect a speaker of the house, but the clerk of the house, Jackie Samson preventing this illegal maneuver by the PNM from taking place, the PNM was not able to elect a speaker of the house.
The PNM came up with a new plan, if they can arrests MP Sadiq Baksh on a sedition charge, one in which he would not be given bail, then the PNM with their 18 seats would have a majority and they will be able to elect a House Speaker, but this plan backfired because it was discovered that one of the PNM operatives had placed a missile and cocaine in the water tank of Sadiq Baksh, the history of this incident is well known.
The PNM went on to govern the country, without a Parliament, spending taxpayer money until budgeted amount (pass by the previous government Basdeo Panday) was spent, and they could not continue until a new budget was presented to Parliament, we had no Parliament, and the PNM was force to call a general election.
We continue to see the treachery of the PNM today, refusing to play by the rules, their criminal activity, arrogant and wrong and strong attitude, hooligan behavior, they crass language, and dirty politics is a hallmark of the PNM. They refuse to debate in Parliament, they continue to disrespect the Parliament, use fabricated/fictitious documents and information. They the PNM represents what is bad and undemocratic, let me be the first to say this should the PNM win the next election, Trinidad and Tobago will be reduced to a situation like Guyana on the Forbes Burnham.
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“let me be the first to say this should the PNM win the next election, Trinidad and Tobago will be reduced to a situation like Guyana on the Forbes Burnham.”
Intricate
Ahhhhh,good griefs people,and where the hell do this tribal/braying-Water buffalo-creatures ,usually emerge from,is anyone’s guess?
Seems as if ,they all are manufactured in the same dunce schools,located …well ,where else,but south of the Caroni,where they grew up hearing the same dootish mantras of Sat Maraj.
Fake names,fake backgrounds,gullible,and delusional.
Talking through all ,six sides of their mouths,and blabbering on incessantly,with no basic logic ,about subjects,they have no conception about.
http://news.yahoo.com/guyana-seeks-break-political-deadlock-early-vote-023004078.html
His fellow tribes men are in charge of that country since 92.It’s the 3rd poorest in that region,leads the world in emigration,corruption,and yet, this clown intricate-after the likes of clueless Dentist Marxist Jagan,his closet CIA, Jewish wife Janet,that socialist criminal Jagdeo,and this undemocratic,ex trade Union bum Ramoutar- still wish to point finger at Forbes Burnham.
Hey intricate,if Forbes was to miraculously reemerge tomorrow,and placed his name,on de ballot ,he’ll win this hastily contrived elections,by a landslide.
So disgusted are all Guyanese,by the stupidity of your PPP cousins,that have almost destroyed what Forbes Burnham built.
Don’t worry your ugly head intricate,for the good folks of T&T ,aren’t that stupid,to give Kamla,and her UNC dominant PP,a second term.
For the record,if you,Tman,mamboo,Trini Rawoils,and similar others ,think that your leader ,can push citizens to the brink,with what Bro Kian ,so astutely described as ‘overreacting policies ,’in de hope ,that they’ll do something ,akin to 1990,thus giving her ,ample reasons,to hold on to power,without acquiring a second mandate? Tell her think again.
If the carbal,and corrupt business supporting blokes think,that having a few old Military blokes,as Minister of National Security,while nuzzling our Police service,will make her hold on to power,when certain black,or brown ,smelly,sticky stuff,hit dat symbolic fan?
Please tell her think again.
Let us not forget the track record of the PNM, an organization which believes that it has a divine right to rule T&T. It was a PNM government which selected a sitting Leader of the Opposition, Panday , from a long list of public officials who failed to declare assets, and charged and jailed him. It was a PNM government who placed the sitting Chief Justice, Sharma, under house arrest.He was later vindicated. It was a PNM government who placed the Speaker, Seepaul under house arrest.Most political commentators criticized the move as inappropriate and illegal. Who placed cocaine in the water tank of UNC government minister, Sadiq Bask in an attempt to frame him? PNM police agents. This was proven and no one was ever charged.
Now we have Rowleygate, a serious fabrication, a tangled web weaved by the Leader of the Opposition to overthrow the government. Do you detect a “paganistic, devilish” pattern of behavior?
“It was a PNM government who placed the sitting Chief Justice, Sharma, under house arrest.He was later vindicated.” Tman
Speaking of vindication,don’t you dare forget Brother Adolphus Parmesar,re his role,in that famous murder ,of British Benson & Hedges ,free spirited filly /heiress,Gail Ann Benson.
Some ,unlike Kitchie,might say that he,just like our maligned ,former CJ,was also vindicated,si?
http://repeatingislands.com/2012/10/26/history-through-calypso-abdul-malik-trial/
A question is in order :-In the case involving the CJ,who was the ‘Congosa’ creature TMan,the CJ,Basdeo,Manning,or the former Chief Magistrate Mc Nicols,who got his throat cut,while lying under anesthetic,on an operation table,by one of Dr Gopiesing young medical students,using a sharp scalpel,at the Eric Williams Medical Complex?
http://m.guardian.co.tt/news/2012-12-15/former-chief-magistrate-mc-nicolls-57-passes
Now we know Parmasar talked/and so lived ,but the Chief Magistrate didn’t talk,then quickly died .
Then again ,Tobago Sandy talk loudly ,about matters in his island ,that had links to Calcutta,and he now ,is battling for his life.
For the record,Abdul Malik,Abbott,Chief Magistrate Mc Nichols ,and even Manning,weren’t fortunate,like yours truly, to have an extremely wise ,Tobago Granny,you always chanted the following:-‘monkey knows which tree to climb.’
They all suffered a rough fate ,simply because they messed with de wrong ….,well,even you ,can fill in de blanks.
When it comes to judicial affairs,and politics,history would show that ‘what you see,ain’t always what you get’-as we like to say on the streets.
Things have a way of taking on a life all of their own.A trouble making, radical,orchestrated the murder of a British heiress ,and he was doomed by a conniving British Privy Council,from the start.
Mc Nicols,was a dead man walking,but just weren’t too aware,until it was too late.
Can’t be a half pregnant/flip flopper,when dealing with the tribe. Either you have the cohones,to go for Basdeo,or his pal CJ Sharma jugular,or stay on the sideline.
http://legacy.guardian.co.tt/archives/2007-09-21/news9.html
Oh how we miss the likes of the Grand Master folks.
Post racial ,pro UNC,Soca artist, Marshall Montana ,has earned over 5-billion dollars ,over the past 5-years.
Over 1 million events,of great social significance,took place in -T&T,during that period,but you won’t know,if you scanned a CD belonging to this popular Soca brad.
Then again,one can’t bite de hand that feeds you,can you?
However,I digress,for –
‘Parmesar they say you too congosa,
Parmesar they name you is the ring leader.
When the judge accept the verdict and let the hammer bang,
Three save, one to hang.’
In the interest of fair play folks,let me.do a bit of research,and see if that judge in question ,back then,was Justice Sharma.
Rowley desperately wants to become PM of T&T. His willingness to destabilize the government at every turn is in plain sight. He is too anxious to incite public rebellion and demonstrations against this democratically elected government. He behaves like a union leader rather than a Leader of the Opposition. He was anxious to betray Manning, acting like a raging bull, and take over the leadership.He is not yet the PM and he is already showing megalomaniac tendencies.He is unable to restrain himself and control his temper as he has demonstrated in the House too frequently, as late as yesterday during the walk out.
The frightening reality is that he is poised to become the PM of T&T.
THE POLLS DO NOT AGREE WITH YOU HERE. THIS IS THE KAMLA PLAN TO DECLARE A STATE OF EMERGENCY AND CONTINUE GOVERNING.
What a sad day for democracy in T&T! That action in Parliment was “demockeracy.” I appeal to all our people to take note of this abuse of power by the PP and on election day use your power to vote them out!
YES THE MORE THEY TRIP OVER ROWLEY THE MORE DESPERATE THEY BECOME.
At this time, it would be advisable that Dr. Rowley act firm but dignified in the face or abusive dictatorial overreach. Run high or low dictator Kamla will have to call the election.
“No written complaints were made. However, the Minister of Finance engaged in discussions with Moody… The Minister of Finance has not made his objections in writing but he has made his objections orally… Formal or informal, a complaint has been made,” she said. – Kamla answering questions regarding Howai’s response to Moody’s.
This response is an illusory attempt to offer a positive spin to the negative rating by Moody’s downgrade of Trinidad and Tobago.
One of her propagandists (on this blog) offered a highly positive statement that Standard and Poor’s has rated Trinidad and Tobago with an A credit rating. I just want to offer a simple observation, whereas the people who make up our government make and offer callous statements and do stupid things, the people who engage in international credit rating are definitively NOT callous nor stupid. If they did, I can assure you that they will not be around to offer another credit report on anybody. They take their products seriously. This is not to say that a mistake here or there is not possible but not something as serious as a downgrade. As usual Kamla believes that because we do not hold governmental positions, we are stupid and don’t understand high financial dealings but as usual, she is wrong.
There is no way in these kinds of credit ratings you will find S&P or Moody’s offering completely opposite ratings with the same given information. Kamla and her goons with make-up information will do anything to look good. There is nothing Howai can offer Moody’s to change that rating. How, Kamla stop lying to the people. YOU knew before publication what the time was because the information was based on what you provided to them.
Kian If you are such a patriot concerned about the welfare and future of T&T, you would desist from reveling in bad news. You would summon your charitable Christian ethics and wish for a better tomorrow.
YES WE DO WISH FOR A BETTER T&T AND WILL GET THAT WISH WHEN YOU AND YOURS ARE OUT OF POWER SOON.
http://www.tradingeconomics.com/trinidad-and-tobago/rating
I am beginning to think that you Kian is so blinded by your hatred of the PP and its supporters that your vision is clouded.
Check out the above website before you accuse anyone of being a liar. And ,for Christ sake,stop reveling and taking pleasure in what you perceive as the country’s problems.
THIS IS JUST THE TROUBLE WITH YOU RUMIES YOU ONLY SEE WHAT YOU WANT TO BELIEVE. EDUCATION IS THERE TO MAKE MONEY NOT SERVE ANYBODY BUT SELF. YOUR HALF TRUTHS DO NOT STAND THE TEST OF TIME AND WITH ALL THE ELECTRONIC MEDIA DEVICES OF TODAY OTHERS ARE EDUCATED TO SEE RIGHT THROUGH YOU BIG TIME. SO MY ADVICE TO YOU IS TO SHUT YOUR TRAP UNTIL YOU REALLY HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY THAT HAS VALUE. THE SERIOUS ISSUE HERE IS THAT KAMLA WITH ALL HER FALSE COW PAPERS CANNOT SEE THAT SHE LEADS EVERYONE OF US NOT HER GOONS IN PARLIAMENT. THESE PEOPLE IN DIEGO MARTIN SHOULD NOT HAVE TO SUFFER BECAUSE OF THE WHIMS AND FANCIES OF THIS PAGAN KISS FOOT QUEEN.
Since there are no surprises in the responses of TMan and Mamoo, I shall try to address them in one reply because their heads are definitely in the same place, so one reply will suffice.
“Now we have Rowleygate, a serious fabrication, a tangled web weaved by the Leader of the Opposition to overthrow the government. Do you detect a “paganistic, devilish” pattern of behavior?”….TMan
Brigadier General TMan! since you have used YOUR system of justice to condemn and convict Dr. Rowley, there is no point in my arguing process with you, because ‘process’ is what my blogs was all about. I’m sure if you are REALLY interested in process (the parliamentary, judicial, prosecutorial and for good measure IC), you would present an argument based on based on how that process REALLY works. But I am no expert on Kamla justice as you are so I would have to desist from your type of argument. I shall be pleased to talk about the parliamentary justice that have been left to us by our previous masters (the English). It is this form of justice to which my reasoning surrounded. You have vented hate for the PNM, hate for Dr. Rowley, hate for the same governance that gave you the education that you now boasts about. So, in conclusion VENGEANCE is what you are REALLY seeking, not true justice but “vengeance is mine seethe the Lord” and I know that you are not the Lord so, I can’t help you there TMan. Your kind of vengeance will be met with some kind of force obviously, but that is another matter.
“Rowley desperately wants to become PM of T&T. His willingness to destabilize the government at every turn is in plain sight.”…TMan
For your information, it is Dr. Rowley’s right, the same as your queen Kamla, to seek to be head of this nation’s government. You say Dr. Rowley wants to destabilize this government, but there is absolutely NO proof (legally) of that. But your paeanistic thinking allows you to believe and conceive Dr. Rowley as a threat and therefore must be taken down at all costs. That is the way you THINK – pagan!.
“After 2 years and no conclusion to the issue the Prime Minister acted and sent the big time liar where he belongs back to Balisier house for comfort. “…..Mamoo
Mamoo! Mamoo! Mamoo! you never cease to amaze me. If I were to be paid for the kind of tata you write, I would give them back their money. What you are telling me is this: Two years is too long to wait for your kind of justice. The prime minister wants a conclusion and she wants it now! To hell with ‘process’, she is the prime minister and she must get anything she wants – even if it is Rowley’s head. Yes! by your standard he is a liar because you called him a rapist and the facts did not bear out. You called his father a rapist and the facts did not bear out. So, he had to be a liar. Pagans never lie, they just believe that whatever they say must be the truth. Pathetic!
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“I am beginning to think that you Kian is so blinded by your hatred of the PP and its supporters that your vision is clouded.”
…..TMan
No, TMan I have nothing against the PP but I do harbor deep resentment of the way they conduct the nation’s business. You do not need to connive, pretend, ignore, misrepresent (especially the truth) in order to present your version of dirty politics. That is where my resentment comes in. It is easy for you to accept that kind of governance because it is in your dna to accept this kind of garbage but mine is different. WHY OH WHY is this the very first time in our history that this kind of event is taking place? Paganism is the answer my friend, paganism!
“Kian If you are such a patriot concerned about the welfare and future of T&T, you would desist from reveling in bad news.”….TMan
Yes! if I am to quote you TMan, I am a very serious person, I loathe corruption. When I see the treasury being emptied, I yearn for a time when we have serious people to govern our affairs but I am absolutely sure that Kamla ands company are not the ones. Let me reiterate – Moody’s report is reflective of the data supplied by your government. If there were holes in that data, being the professionals that they are, Moodys are smart enough to understand where figure DO NOT MATCH. And that my friend, what led to the ill-fated report that Howai and Kamla
feel is not to their liking – tough luck big guy, it a foul and you are out. Give me honesty!
“ONE MAN CAN LEAD A HORSE TO WATER A THOUSAND CANNOT MAKE IT DRINK”
NEED I SAY MORE………
Daly ‘troubled’ by manner of MP’s suspension
By By ria taitt ria.taitt@trinidadexpress.com
Story Created: May 9, 2015 at 9:42 PM ECT
Story Updated: May 9, 2015 at 9:42 PM ECT
“Deeply troubling”.That is how Senior Counsel Martin Daly described the suspension of Opposition Leader Dr Keith Rowley from the House of Representatives on Wednesday.
In a statement yesterday, Daly pointed out that a parliamentary debate could not be a fact-finding mission to determine authenticity of the material presented to the Parliament by Rowley in May 2013, when he read the e-mails into the records of Parliament.
“The fundamental difficulty about this suspension is that it is not possible credibly to establish by means of a parliamentary debate whether material presented in Parliament, spoken or written, is true or false or authentic or bogus,” Daly said.
“Truth and authenticity are essentially matters of fact requiring the facts to be found by a body properly constituted and equipped to receive and assess evidence relevant to the issue of whether the challenged material (the e-mails) is false or not authentic,” he said.
He noted that in the context of speech and presentation in Parliament, the Privileges Committee was “obviously the body that should carry out the appropriate exercise”.
The former Law Association president noted that the process of the Privileges Committee was transparent, involving examination and cross-examination, in the presence of counsel, and that the resulting report of the Privileges Committee could be scrutinised by the public, which could get an understanding and form its own judgment on the matter deliberated upon by the committee.
“It must be emphasised that when the Privileges Committee sits there are defined thresholds of proof, which those accusing a member of the House of misleading the House by the use of bogus information must cross, and the member accused has the benefit of having his counsel present.
“Whatever the conclusion of the Privileges Committee, the public will see the reasons for the committee’s finding when it reports back to Parliament. There is also opportunity for members of the committee to dissent from a majority view in the report for reasons that can be stated for the scrutiny of the public.
“In addition the report may be debated thereby providing more of the clear light of public scrutiny,” Daly stated.
He therefore endorsed the view that “the use of a simple parliamentary majority on the conclusion of a debate on a motion to suspend a member, without the prior intervention of a fact finding body such as the Privileges Committee, can readily lead to oppression of an Opposition by the party in Government”.
“Put simply a proceeding before the Privileges Committee does not have the arbitrary character of a simple majority vote in the House of Representatives,” he stated.
Without calling names, Daly also explained there was a clear distinction between the grounds and circumstances leading to the suspension, for instance, of former opposition leader Basdeo Panday and that of Rowley.
“The point must also be made that contempt in the face of the Parliament, such as a refusal to obey a ruling of the Speaker, is an entirely different matter from allegations and counter allegations of truth or lack of authenticity.
“In the case of contempt in the face of Parliament, what has occurred is immediately available for scrutiny by the public because parliamentary debates are broadcast live on the television and radio.
“In those circumstances the public has the primary facts before them and can make its own judgment,” Daly stated.
Daly also commented on the role of the Speaker in all of this.
“I also have recent and grave concerns about the seeming lack of any independent guidance from the Speaker of the House who, from the moment he takes the chair, has a duty to be fair and balanced.
“This is a duty that is superior to any party affiliation or obligation that a Speaker may have. In view of the pending expiry of this Parliament it is unnecessary at this stage to do more than record this concern and hope that we can do better in the next Parliament,” the Senior Counsel said.
Daly also stressed that he had “great difficulty” in accepting the manner in which the Leader of the Opposition originally dealt with the alleged e-mails but he (Daly) had hoped that the Integrity Commission would conduct an “appropriate and expeditious investigation having regard to the potential for lasting reputational damage to those whom the alleged e-mails implicated in serious wrongdoing”.
The former independent senator prefaced his comments by stating that in view of the current “super charged political atmosphere” he felt it was necessary “at the outset to restate that I have no party political affiliation and that from time to time I have received barbs from both sides. My comments are motivated by a desire that fairness should prevail in as many aspects of our life in Trinidad and Tobago as possible”.
On Wednesday, Rowley was suspended from the House of Representatives, after the Parliament approved a motion of no confidence brought by the Government against him which also contained a resolution calling for his suspension, for bringing to the Parliament “unsubstantiated” allegations against senior office holders, contained in e-mails, presented during a debate on a motion of no confidence in the Prime Minister in May 2013. Rowley’s suspension comes on the eve of a dissolution of Parliament, which must take place by June 17.
This is the first time in the history of this country that a Member of Parliament was suspended via a motion of no confidence which specifically called for his/her suspension.